Friday, 28 August 2009

No need for Labour hand-wringing over Barnet

Barnet council's self-proclaimed adoption of Easyjet's business model is causing some left-wing hand wringing. There's no need of course; even Labour councils have been applying this business model for years.

Paying extra for faster planning decisions, or paying less Council tax for using a smaller bin, are no different than choosing to a pay a higher charge in a council car park close to the city centre rather than using a cheaper car park further away. Or would Barnet's Labour critics argue that homogenous car park charges 'promote a more equitable society and open up opportunity more widely'? If so, they need to look to the many Labour councils that cream it in from expensive parking charges in prime locations. Barnet is just taking the principle a stage further. And why not?

And even the nationalised railways had First Class travel for sale - much loved by any Labour politician with an expense account - and I've never heard a single one of Labour's troughers ever contend that abolishing First Class would 'promote a more equitable society and open up opportunity more widely'.

10 comments:

Blue Eyes said...

YES! Go Barnet!

tory boys never grow up said...

I think that the Barnet Tories will find that paying for queue jumping is thoroughly unpopular with the British - and hopefully Easyjet and Ryanair will appreciate the result when their commercial polices are put to the vote.

What it of course means for those who pay the same as before will be worse service and slower planning applications - and surprise, surprise the cost will still rise!

Talk about Tories knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.

JuliaM said...

"...and hopefully Easyjet and Ryanair will appreciate the result when their commercial polices are put to the vote. "

People are already 'putting their commercial policies to the vote', though.

They are still choosing to fly with them. Aren't they?

tory boys never grow up said...

They are still choosing to fly with them. Aren't they?

Only until they get a better choice - perhaps you should also look at Ryanair's recent results as well. Those who cannot afford the premiums resent being treated as cattle and milked at every opportunity. Companies which are sucessful long term do not play divide and rule with their customers - they appreciate that one day the less well off customers may be able to make the choice.

Blue Eyes said...

TBNGU - they have plenty of choice of airlines which charge more and provide a better service. And many, many people still choose the slightly ropey but cheap and cheerful budget airlines. So much so, in fact, that the "full service" airlines are rushing to cut costs and frills to compete.

I do wish Lefties would open their eyes, even if just occasionally.

tory boys never grow up said...

Blue Eyes

But how long do you think it will be before the low cost airlines will respond by not charging more for what most decent people regard as part of the basic service (I can see the advertising campaign now) Perhaps you have not noticed the scrums that form after priority boarding. Perhaps you have not noticed how many low cost airlines have not followed Ryanair in their discrimatory treatment of disabled passengers. Perhaps you have not had to deal with the problems which arise because of the ridiculous amounts of carry on luggage that people now take on in order to avoid luggage charges - the fact is that the planes would be dangerous if everyone were to take on their permitted allowances. Perhaps you have not noticed how Ryanair has become a laughing stock because it floated the idea of charging for toilets.
Perhaps you have not noticed how most people ignore the constant sales pitch on most low cost flights.
Perhaps it is you who should open your eyes and ears - most people Right or Left are actually sick to their back teeth of what has happened to service quality across of much of their lives - much of which is being driven by the financial business models employed by many companies where every service has a price.

You should also note that the full service airlines are also reacting by reducing distinctions in the service they offer - quite a few are now acknowledging that concentrating on developing premium business class services has been a mistake - so they are in effect declassing - while the low cost airlines now want to go in the other direction.

Perhaps you should also appreciate the difference between commercial companies and local councils. The latter are meant to be democratic bodies where all the recipients of their services have equal rights which do not vary according to their bank balances.

JuliaM said...

"I do wish Lefties would open their eyes, even if just occasionally."

Might as well wish for a pig to fly...

"Perhaps it is you who should open your eyes and ears - most people Right or Left are actually sick to their back teeth of what has happened to service quality across of much of their lives.."

I don't fly Ryanair or EasyJet. I don't shop at Asda or Lidl. I don't travel by coach.

I pay more for food, flights and travel because I'm happy to do so, and because I know I'm guarenteed good service.

Other people aren't as fussed by good service, and are happy to pay less as a result. Why should they not get a choice?

"Perhaps you should also appreciate the difference between commercial companies and local councils. The latter are meant to be democratic bodies where all the recipients of their services have equal rights which do not vary according to their bank balances."

When they ensure that all recipients have equal rights which do not vary according to their identity group and it's political pressure on councils to acceed to their whims, I'll worry about this.

I think I'll be waiting a long, long time to worry, though.

tory boys never grow up said...

"I pay more for food, flights and travel because I'm happy to do so, and because I know I'm guarenteed good service."

So if you are not happy to pay more or cannot do so - then you should not be guaranteed good service?

Those, like myself, who believe that Tories are those who are for the few rather than the many and that Tories know the price of everything and the value of nothing can only thankyou for confirming our views so succinctly.

Blue Eyes said...

Those of us who have nice little mantras which have little actual meaning continue to vote Labour even though the party has royally screwed up the country every time it has been in power

Yep, we've noticed.

JuliaM said...

"Those, like myself, who believe that Tories are those who are for the few rather than the many and that Tories know the price of everything and the value of nothing can only thankyou for confirming our views so succinctly."

That would be nice for you, were I only a Tory...

You'd think, on the day so many of you eager Lefties swallowed the 'Chris Grayling/'Wire' hoax down in one gulp, you'd be a little bit wary of jumping to conclusions.

Wouldn't you?