Monday, 16 November 2009

Eyetie talks bollocks - EU listens

Italy's foreign minister is something of a prat. Calling for a new European army, he says;

It was a "necessary objective to have a European army", Mr Frattini said. "Take Afghanistan: at present President Obama asks Poland, or Italy, or Great Britain for more troops. If there were a European army, he would have a 'toolbox' to draw from. He might need 30 aeroplanes: he would be able to ask if the European army was in a position to provide them."

Mr Frattini said that at present "every country duplicates its forces, each of us puts armoured cars, men, tanks, planes, into Afghanistan. If there were a European army, Italy could send planes, France could send tanks, Britain could send armoured cars, and in this way we would optimise the use of our resources. Perhaps we won't get there immediately, but that is the idea of a European army".

Thus proving why the dear Italians are better at making pasta than war.

An army is an administrative unit, coming at the top of a scale that goes battalion, brigade, division, corps. An army is a mixed formation, with infantry, mechanised infantry, armour, artillery, engineers and air and logistic support. British military doctrine used to call for the UK in peacetime to maintain strength for two armies; now we have about one. So does Italy.

Frattini seems to confuse military organisation with white-goods manufacturing. "Italy can make fridges, Germany can make washing machines and the UK can make boilers" makes a sort of sense when the minimum economic scale of a white-goods maker is the markets of about 1.5 nations, but he's away with the fairies if he imagines the same sort of logic applies to armies.

The deeply worrying aspect is that this fool is Italy's Foreign Minister, and there will this morning be scores of other important and influential fools in Brussels who will listen to him.

11 comments:

Weekend Yachtsman said...

Ah yes, the beginning of the process that we now know so well:

Stage 1: "It's absurd, nobody is proposing any such thing" (This is the stage we see here)

Stage 2: "It has been proposed, but the scheme has no merits and we will veto it"

Stage 3: "After tough negotiations, we have secured an opt-out, this will not apply to the UK"

Stage 4: "It's all provided for in the treaties, it has happened and there is nothing we can do about it, impossible to reopen, it's now the law, time to move on" etc etc

Followed by cast-iron guarantees that whatever is planned next will never be allowed to happen.

Repeat until your country doesn't exist any more. Or alternatively, stop voting for any of the current major parties.

Elby The Beserk said...

Well, there is already (nobody asked me - anyone ask you?) an EU Gendarmerie

http://www.eurogendfor.org/

So of course, an EU Army will happen sooner or later, however ridiculous it may seem.

Letters From A Tory said...

The Italians and French desperately want an EU army because they cannot afford their own. Plain and simple.

Weekend Yachtsman said...

@LFAT: whereas we can?

I think not.

hatfield girl said...

It's certainly more unnerving than,

'Scotsman talks bollocks - EU falls about laughing'.

Elby The Beserk said...

What's the difference between the French and toast?

You can turn toast into soldiers...

ba boom.

I'll get my coat

Brian, follower of Deornoth said...

What he means is that Germany will supply the tanks, the French supply the armoured cars, the British the infantry and the Italians the generals.

Fausty said...

It is not that "every country duplicates its forces" it's that the EU seeks to duplicate every country's forces.

[expletive]

Anonymous said...

Granted, the eyetie is a worthless dolt and nothing of value would be lost if he were dropped into the Marianas Trench but he's still far superior to Miliband.

Thud said...

It is what pols do...talk shite...he obviously had nothing else more pressing that day other than lunch.

Henry Crun said...

Raedwald we do have two armies, or at least enough manpower for two armies.

The first is on active service in Afghanistan and the second are the worthless penpushers in Whitehall. Draft the Whitehall "army" to the frontline and I think we may well see a surge in providing the "right" equipment.