Tuesday, 28 June 2011

It's not an insurance scam, it's a crime

Jack Straw's mealy-mouthed condemnation of the practice of insurance companies selling-on the details of those involved in accidents to ambulance-chasing lawyers for up to £1,000 a time is a little late. After all, much of the groundwork for the 'scam' opportunities was laid down when he was in government, much of it when he was Lord Chancellor.


Such practices would clearly be against the Data Protection Act, would be criminal, unless, as seems likely, the small print of our insurance policies contains a clause acknowledging that our data may be passed onto third parties - in other words, they have a defence in that we have consented. However, such a clause may be open to challenge under contract law legislation if consumers have no choice. This is a complex area of law and clearly needs testing in court - probably by a class action.


So I'm sure it won't be long before a new advert appears on daytime TV; "Have you been cold-called by an accident claims company? Have your personal details been passed on by your insurance company? Have ambulance-chasing lawyers pestered and harassed you? You could make a successful claim! Mr X of Wendover won £6,000 when his insurance company sold-on his personal details to a rep who called him 37 times on his mobile and left 40 texts. Contact us now!"


As thee sow so shall thee reap*


*This is often quoted as 'As ye sow' etc. but contrary to the beliefs of Hollywood scriptwriters no-one in English history ever actually said 'ye''; 'ye' is not and never has been a word in the English language. The superscript 'y' was used in written material as shorthand for 'th', thus 'As ye sow'  

14 comments:

James Higham said...

Does this throw any light on what was used for "you" and "the"?

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/c/cme/AGZ8236.0001.001/1:4.2?rgn=div2;view=fulltext

right_writes said...

He wasn't really "Lord Chancellor" Raedwald, that is a bit of a misnomer... The Lord Chancellor sat in the House Of Lords, before the last government abolished the position...

And as I posited with my rhetorical question in the Barclaygraph earlier this morning...

...Why is it that the names of government departments are the antonym of what goes on inside them?...

The position of which you speak was prefixed by the title "Secretary of State for Justice"!!!

Ha ha ha ha ha aaarrrrhhhhh!

Anonymous said...

I'm glad this has been brought to light. I will certainly sue for breach of confidentiality as my wife's details were passed on to an ambulance chaser following a minor bump.

Strange though that Jack Straw has chosen now to get this out into the open (I'm glad he has BTW) because, presumably, this was going on, on his watch. But hey! That's politics!

On the subject of the Bible - King James version; Book of Galatians - "Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap". No ye or thee for that matter.

Coney Island

Raedwald said...

James - yes!

The substitution of 'y' for the AS thorn character for the 'th' digraph came I believe with the advent of moveable type; because of its height, a lower-case thorn simply wouldn't fit the forme.

English Pensioner said...

I'm still trying to work out the logic of what is taking place and why insurance companies would want to do something that effectively leads to a bigger claim.

Does it apply to other insurance claims? If I, say, have a fire in my home, would they sell my name to an insurance assessor who would advise me, for a fee, how to maximise my claim?

Gallovidian said...

Insurance companies seem to have a lot of support for their shadier activities from parliament.

I'm thinking here about automatic renewal, which is simply theft.

Anonymous said...

Whether tis, ye, thee or what ever else, the words convey a very painful oft' experienced truth.

Straw knew also, in 97 when the plot to open our borders to anyone who fancied coming and despoiling our nation - he kfcuing knew the consequences - in my book that makes him a ***t.
He will say on his death bed, "I was wrong." - that's just the type of pondlife bottom feeding tw*t he is and the Labour Party was made for him.

Welshblogger said...

Well I currently have experience of this first hand. I had an accident in April which was my fault and since the middle of May I have had at least 2 calls every day from companies my details have been sold to. When I ask them where they have found my details, they just tell me I am on a database. Even when I tell them I am on the TPS list and do not want unsolicted call they still ring. I have even told them that it was my fault and I cannot claim against myself and they still call!

right_writes said...

@Welshblogger...

As I was reading your comment, the phone rang... I answered and an almost unintelligible Indian lady started talking about the sort of thing of which you speak... First she asked if I was there (by name), and I asked who wants to know? Then when she started waffling, I put the phone down.

Interestingly, not only do I subscribe to the free TPS service, I also pay to block calls from unidentified callers. This has worked reasonably well for the last 8 or 9 years, but now whilst reading your comment, it occurred to me that I am getting a lot more unsolicited calls...

I looked at my phone, which has "caller ID" and re-dialled the number that the nice Indian lady called me from, and it answered immediately... It was an advert for a debt consolidation company.

Next move... Throw my phones away, I rarely use the landline anyway, its main purpose is to provide a DSL feed.

Elby the Beserk said...

1. You and thee - read David Crystal's wonderful book "The English Language" will fill you in on all such matters.

2. Straw was, is, and ever will be, an utter cunt. Anyone who dobs his son in for smoking weed is beyond contempt - and that is regardless of the fact that Jack "Blows with the wind" Straw, was,s and ever will be - an utter cunt.

Elby the Beserk said...

Cold callers?

Try this, in a very clear cut English accent

"I'm terribly sorry, I really do not speak English at all."

And put the phone down.

Anonymous said...

'As thee sow...thee reap'?
You have 'emended' the text to nonsense.
Both occurrences should be in the nominative case, whereas 'thee' is accusative/dative.
'As thou sowest, so shall(s)t/will(s)t thou reap'. A number of variants are possible both of form and orthography, but 'thee' is not nominative.

Anonymous said...

BTW: 'Ye' seemed to be ok for the King James translators: 'Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost'.
Did they script the 'Ten Commandments' for Hollywood, I wonder.

Welshblogger said...

@Right_Writes

Just like you we pay so that no unidentified numbers can get through to us, but the clever buggers are now using dummy numbers. Think yourself lucky that the number you had was genuine!

I would complain to the Information Commissioner about my data being passed on without my permission but it would do no good.