Sunday, 8 April 2012

Credo

Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem coeli et terrae, visibilium omnium et invisibilium. Et in unum Dominum Jesum Christum, Filium Dei unigenitum. Et ex Patre natum ante omnia saecula. Deum de Deo, lumen de lumine, Deum verum de Deo vero. Genitum, not factum, consubstantialem Patri: per quem omnia facta sunt. Qui propter nos homines, et propter nostram salutem descendit de coelis. Et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto ex Maria Virgine: ET HOMO FACTUS EST. Crucifixus etiam pro nobis; sub Pontio Pilato passus, et sepultus est. Et resurrexit tertia die, secundum Scripturas. Et ascendit in coelum: sedet ad desteram Patris. Et iterum venturus est com gloria judicare vivos et mortuos. cujus regni non erit finis. Et in Spiritum Sanctum, Dominum et vivificantem: qui ex Patre Filioque procedit. Qui cum Patre, et Filio simul adoratur et conglorificatur: qui locutus est per Prophetas. Et unam, sanctam, catholicam et apostolicam Ecclesiam. Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum. Et vitam ventura saeculi.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Any chance of telling us what it says ,without the Mafia speak.

Nigel Sedgwick said...

Amen.

Oldrightie said...

A piece of prose heralding a better way. Trouble is we ignored it.

Goodnight Vienna said...

Very moving.

DeeDee99 said...

What?

Caedmon's Cat said...

He isn't here - He is risen. That's why they can't possibly win :o)

Captain Fatty said...

Google Translate does a fairly good job (better than my O-level Latin anyway).

"I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible..."

Cheers,
Fatty

Anonymous said...

Ad maiorem Dei gloriam.

Anonymous said...

I believe - emphasis 'I' - glory be.

Amen to that.

Anonymous said...

"desteram" should be "dexteram" - on the right (or dexterous) hand.

Haydn's setting of the Credo in his "Nelson Mass" is particularly good.



DC

Anonymous said...

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, only Son of God. Born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, very God of very God. Begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made. Who for us men, and for our salvation he came down from heaven. And was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary: AND WAS MADE MAN. He was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried. And he rose again the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. Who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified: Who spoke by the Prophets. We believe in one holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the remission of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead. And the life everafter.

Amen

Coney Island

Anonymous said...

It's nice that it is again, as it always used to be, credo,

rather than the credamus we have had for too long.

Thank you. Dominus vobiscum.

Anonymous said...

Just sounds so much more reverent in Latin. Oh how I miss those Latin masses. Thankyou

anon 2 said...

Thank you Raedwald. Yes, I like them in Latin as well; especially now they've modernized our beautiful English versions.

Thence to the other:

Pater Noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

Captain Fatty said...

Anon 2

Hey! That's the Lord's Prayer. Even my rusty Latin can cope with that.

Ave.
Fatty

G. Tingey said...

It is the (Evil, murderous, lying, torturing, blackmailing) Roman Catholic version of the Apostles Creed, as opposed to the Nicene creed, I think.

It's still lying rubbish, though.
There is no BigSky Fairy ...
Time to grow up!

English Pensioner said...

I'd be happy if our Parish Church would use the King James Bible and the 1662 Book of Common Prayer.

Edward Spalton said...

I had to stand in for the deacon and read the lengthy gospel for Good Friday, concerning the events of Easter. It struck me as highly circumstantial and utterly credible. People's behaviour was just like today - the Jewish Sanhedrin like one of our crummy local authorities trying to frame Jesus to the Romans, Pilate the official literally trying to wash his hands of responsibility, the terrified disciples and so on. The slight differences in the gospel accounts appointed for the different days of Holy Week convince me that they are genuine accounts - probably written up nearer the events than modern scholarship allows.

The whole point is that the "Sky Fairy", the second person of the Holy Trinity, was fully God and became fully Man, died in a particularly horrible way and was resurrected.

The terrified, demoralised disciples who were going into hiding from the authorities and ready to cut and run, could not have founded the Church and faced martyrdom themselves for a lie.

English Pensioner, I'm happy to say that our Church uses the King James Version. We use the original version of this Nicene Creed in Prayer Book English , omitting the "filioque" ("and from the Son") which was a later addition, not authorised by the Council of Nicea.

meltemian said...

I've just had a flash-back......
Loreto Convent 1956!!
Gave me a nasty turn for a minute, and I can still say the whole Nicene Creed from memory.
"Give me a child until he is seven"