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Friday, 11 May 2012

Cramner and the ASA - 'Fiat! Fiat! Fiat!'

In an almost unbelievable move that defies every rational explanation, Cramner is being 'done' by the Advertising Standards Authority for running an online ad from the Coalition for Marriage. The ad is carried below. 

Let me make my own position very clear, for the benefit of both the ASA and any confused or deluded individuals who may wish to read this blog. A natural marriage is defined by the catechism of the Council of Trent as 'the conjugal union between a man and a woman, both in legal status, establishing a perpetual and indissoluble communion of lives'. This applies to all humanity, Christian or non-Christian, baptised or non-baptised, and any marriage not conforming to this state is an unnatural marriage.

Furthermore, my church requires me to uphold marriage between a baptised man and a baptised woman as a Sacrament. The Council of Trent explained  'The grace that should enhance natural love, consolidate the indissoluble union, and sanctify the spouses was merited by Christ in His Passion, He who is the author and end of the venerable Sacraments'

In fact I am required to maintain the above by Canon Law (canon i, Sess. XXIV) under threat of the most dire penalties - "If any one shall say that matrimony is not truly and properly one of the Seven Sacraments of the Evangelical Law, instituted by Christ our Lord, but was invented in the Church by men, and does not confer grace, let him be anathema."

The declaration of anathema is a great and solemn thing and clearly for the faithful any amount of corporeal pain, punishment, torture and imprisonment is preferable to this casting out; in amice, stole and violet cope the Pontiff declares -
Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive N-- himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment
Whereupon all present declare "Fiat! Fiat! Fiat!"

There are many doctrinal differences between Cramner and Rome, but none of them as divisive as a common belief in marriage is uniting. If His Grace will permit, I will stand four-square with him on this.


Sniper said...

As the good Bish does not allow comments from us non-registered chaps:

Will any evidence be given under oath? If so, on what?

Anonymous said...

Notice that Cranmer is virtually being asked to prove himself innocent - which is impossible. Is it legal for an agent of the Crown to do that? Doesn't Common Law have something to say about that?

Notice also that he is not allowed to know who his accusers are. As such, a "complaint" is a tool that can be used, and is increasingly used, by the State to shut down any activity it does not like.

The ASA route is but one of the many that will be used to shut down bloggers.

The first is the ACTA treaty, which the EU ratified barely months ago - which favours Dysney and other media conglomerates.

The second is via regulation - e.g., the ASA. Government'd have a tough time pushing legislation through Parliament which impinges so indecently on free speech. That's why it likes its QUANGOs so much. Bureaucracy is also the EU's favoured tool for slipping anti-democratic measures past legislatures.

The third is via "equality" laws.

In various parliamentary select committee hearings, there's a thread of inquiry running right through their deliberations - how to restrict bloggers.

Their quest has so far included:

a) lobbying legislation;
b) defamation laws;
c) the all-encompassing 'diversity' legislation which covers all manner of 'discrimination' issues.

For all we know, the government commissioned these select committee inquiries - or at least fed it direction and greased a few palms.

G. Tingey said...

Leagal and constitutional FAIL
You qote, of all things, the Council of Trentino.
Erm ... errr ...
"The Bishop of Rome hath no dominion in this realm of England"
And atheist though I am, I agree with that one!

Furthermore, I have taken Cranmer to task - on the grounds that there are plenty of OTHER things in the "bible" which we no longer go along with, like:
slavery / killing your children if they disobey you / wearing clothes of mixed fabrics / eating shellfish / classifying bats as birds etc ad nauseam.

Time for everyone to GROW UP methinks.
Note that I do not support the complaint against "Cranmer" - since I think everyone needs a snse of presently missing proportion in this case.

Anonymous said...

We all need to "calm down dear". Do not be afraid of same sex marriages, Darwin has ruled that a genetic cul-de-sac awaits them all.

Coney Island

Edward Spalton said...


The English Book of Common Prayer wedding service would appear to be very close to the Council of Trent in its understanding of marriage.

It's also rather childish to quote all sorts of Old Testament stuff (basically Jewish history as if it was something Christians had ever practised. I think that the Council of Trent would not be so very far away from the Articles of Religion which you quote in this respect. (Article vii "Of the Old Testament")
........Although the Law given from God by Moses as touching Ceremonies and Rites do not bind Christian men, nor the Civil precepts thereof ought of necessity to be received in any commonwealth; yet notwithstanding, no Christian man whatsoever is free from the obedience of the Commandments which are called Moral.

You can't be any more grown up than that.

Mike Cunningham said...

I too have placed the Advert upon my own site, and am also engaged in informing the ASA of its presence on that blogsite; and am also asking them what they think they can do about it, seeing as my blog is hosted overseas?