Saturday, 17 November 2012

The first cracks in the ice

Contrary to the message carried by the MSM and BBC this morning, that the PCC elections were a dreadful failure, I'm beginning to think they were more of a success than they look. The grudging reluctance with which the same press are reporting UKIP's thrashing of the LibDems for 3rd place in Corby is part of the same thing. 

What we're seeing are the first probes by voters not quite convinced that a political life without Labour, the Conservatives or the LibDems is possible. The decision of the dinosaur parties to stand PCC candidates on party political tickets was a huge mistake; voters have shown that if they are to elect local officials, that they want those officials to look to their immediate constituency for their remit and not party HQ in London. The scale of victory for independents is unprecedented. And even where candidates standing on a party ticket were perceived as independent locals rather than apparatchiks - such as Air Chief Marshal Sir Clive Loader for Leicestershire - they won handsomely.

If any encouragement were needed for a 'Vote for anyone but the Big Three' campaign for 2014 and 2015, this is it. The incumbent parties have been whipped raw. Any move now to award themselves more money from our taxes will only hasten their demise. 

So while the political class - the MSM, the centralist parties, their corporatist sustainers and all the dags on the fringe - continue their own inward-looking and exclusive political dialogue far removed from the real concerns of voters, the ice is cracking beneath their feet.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Very encouraging!
One snag. Too many police, ex-police, were elected. It's almost as if the voters are awakening to the rottenness of the main parties, but allowing the Police Federation and their buddies to sneak in through the unguarded back door.

DeeDee99 said...

I voted for my UKIP candidate but put the Independent as second choice.

I'm delighted that the Conservative candidate lost in Surrey and the Independent won.

As support for the 3 main parties crumbles, they will devise more and more ways to ensure that the political class has access to the teat of taxpayer's money. This was just the start .... we'll be voting for politicised NHS Trust Chiefs next.

Anonymous said...

DeeDee99: "they will devise more and more ways to ensure that the political class has access to the teat of taxpayer's money"

We also need to keep an eye on the 'new' political class, all those shiny buttons and levers of power, may be just too tempting to let alone.

@Ghostof Winston said...

@DeeDee99,

My 1st & 2nd votes were the other way around.

Hampshire also returned an independent. Great result from a thinking electorate - esp as Michael Mates lost on the 2nd choice votes :-D

Fausty said...

While the poll results are likely to give voters more confidence in UKIP, I'm not convinced that we've yet reached a tipping point.

As boudicca recently wrote:

"In the local elections in May, UKIP was polling 7% overall. Yet we got juust over 13% of the vote. Not so strange when you realise that 13% was what the 60+ demographic was showing.

The same has happened in Corby. Overall, UKIP is on 9% but in the 60+ group (the largest and most likely to vote) we are on 14%. And that is the share of the vote which we got."


Never the less, the ice is cracking under the politicos, Dave determinedly hammering in a nail a day to his own political coffin. Dave's latest is to introduce mandatory software on all new computers that "protect children" from porn on the internet - another globalist mission-creep vehicle for internet censorship and control.

Anonymous said...

Now I may be wrong here but my first impressions of what the PCC vote was for had nothing whatsoever to do with politics. I thought we would be voting for some good qualified local bod to run the local plod. Then at some later stage when the leaflets started to drop on my doormat, I find that the whole thing has been politicised. Police and politics should never be seen together, they make very bad bed-fellows.

Very poor turnout upholds my (our) view in this respect. The general public are so feckin fed up of mainstream politics, they just couldn't be bothered to vote for any of them. Those that did, voted independent of UKIP.

Yours, with deep disaffection!
Coney Island

Anonymous said...

"we'll be voting for politicised NHS Trust Chiefs next"

Behind the time are you not ?
NHS trusts are to be abolished, to be replaced by "GP consortiums".
In the real world the GP consortiums will be actually run by private health companies, such as Virgin Health and Capita et-al.
The NHS trusts chiefs are being offered several times their annual salary as good-bye presents.

Anonymous said...

And you may note that in the healthcare bill that has passed, the Health Department of government does not run the health service.
As my GP said, under the new arrangements there is no provision for the free prescriptions to continue. They are paid by government at the moment, but not under the new administration.
Patients that take considerable resources in their treatment may be moved-on to other providers in the future.

Anonymous said...

And you may note that in the healthcare bill that has passed, the Health Department of government does not run the health service.
As my GP said, under the new arrangements there is no provision for the free prescriptions to continue. They are paid by government at the moment, but not under the new administration.
Patients that take considerable resources in their treatment may be moved-on to other providers in the future.

Fred said...

As expected the Merseyside PPC vote went to Labour, it would be impossible for the other areas in Merseyside to get any more votes than the Liverpool voters voting Labour, as far as voting democracy is concerned there was none at least the local Councillors on the police committees we had a chance to vote in.

Scrobs... said...

We had just one leaflet delivered to our door, and while we have every faith in our own judgement, it was nice to read that UKIP said they'd try and do what we wanted to be done.

So we voted for them, simple.

None of the others bothered.

Mind you, I'm on UKIP's side every day now, unless Cameron decides to fulfil his promise for a referendum. So far, he's just like the Bliar.

Anonymous said...

What do you expect ?
They were both educated the same.
All the party leaders are clones..
Leave the EU ?
That happy well-paid retirement home after they've buggered us into submission ?

DeeDee99 said...

Fausty ... DD99 and Boudicca are one and the same. I couldn't use B on either the Guardian site or Google.

Budgie said...

Right, Raedwald. The more we can split up power, the better it is for us.

Wildgoose said...

In South Yorkshire the English Democrats came a comfortable second, beating the Tories, UKIP and the Liberal Democrats who came last.