Saturday, 29 December 2012

How dare these Euverts pervert our police

Cameron is quite rightly under pressure to reject 135 Euro crime and policing laws in a British opt-out from Europolicing. The key term is jurisdiction; we're being asked to surrender our own jurisdiction over our own police to Brussels. For just as our criminal and civil law is founded on principles quite different from European Roman Law so are our police supposed to be. The plotting and fiddling by successive Home Secretaries since the 1960s, together with the perfidious and antidemocratic ACPOs malign influence, has sought to not only wrest control of the police from local to national level, but turn our police forces into a single, national force. The Police Act of 1964 started a process that we are only now beginning to reverse. 

The British people can only ever effectively be policed by a Peelean force; local, accountable and civilian in character. I'd guess some 95% of police activity is dealing with theft, burglary, vehicle offences, public order, minor drugs and public disturbances. The need for any kind of European 'intervention' or 'co-ordination' in any of this policing activity is precisely nil; it's small scale local stuff that's utterly routine to police. Neither, let's be honest, are we particularly anxious to have the power to extradite back here a Czech flasher or a Polish shoplifter who have gone back home. And our sense of fair play conditioned with a few centuries of buccaneering in our blood means that should a Brit make a successful 'home run' without arrest after flashing in the Algarve or shoplifting in Marseilles we consider it an injustice to extradite them. The Euros have never understood the psychology behind 'British Bulldog'.

For the tiny but potentially significant volume of serious crime and terrorism that we need to investigate and enforce at a national level, we already do. As we already co-operate with other police and intelligence services from around the world - not just Europe. So what is this European integration of policing all about? Even its most fervent supporters won't claim it will improve clear-up rates, reduce crime or make our streets safer, and it's a matter of record that anything with a Euro dimension automatically becomes less efficient, so it's certainly not about efficiency. Nope. There is one reason and one reason only behind this integration of Euro-policing - as a support to Euro Federalism. It is wholly political and has nothing to do with policing. 

So when Viviane Reding, an unelected Euro Commissioner who used to be a Luxembourg journalist, hammers Cameron for considering an opt-out from EU jurisdiction over UK policing you can be pretty sure we're doing the right thing.

And one final thing. Our police bosses are in desperate need of corrective training and discipline; they have forgotten who they work for, and have been deluded enough to believe they have a remit themselves to open a dialogue with the EU independent of their local democratic control. Ms Reding quotes UK police bosses as being 'horrified' at the prospect of an opt-out. Their view is not relevant - they must do as they are instructed by the British people. Any Chief Police Officer who doesn't understand this can get out now.

12 comments:

Ian Hills said...

Hear, hear! To hell with Romano-fascist law and all the parasitical little Hitlers at home and abroad.

ACPO and Europol are just tumours on the body of England.

Barnacle Bill said...

Half the trouble with our police forces nowadays is that the higher echelons got too pally with our politicians.
Saw what a nice cushy unaccountable number was to be had and we now have a policing elite as well as a political one.
ACPO being the biggest example of this.
As for Europe, I think our police forces has a better record on dealing with international crime than many of the forces across the Channel.
And that's with-out any EU led intergration!

G. Tingey said...

Worst of all, an EU arrest warrant does NOT require a Prma faciae case to be made, nor nedd the "crime" be one that is, you know, actually a crime in England ...
The whole thing is contrary to the Bill of RIghts.
Trouble is, no-one with enough money for lawyers has contested it, because it would collapse instantly, if such a challenge was made.
Take others' points about the corruption of our own plod, though.

DeeDee99 said...

Well said. The EAW is a completely obnoxioius piece of EU power-grab.

Centuries of legal protection under Habeas Corpus, destroyed so that the EU can claim the right to extradite and incarcerate criminal suspects, without submitting any evidence whatsoever of guilt.

The assumption underpinning it - that criminal and judicial processes across the EU nations -are equal and offer the same protections would be laughable if it wasn't so outrageous.

Does anyone seriously belive that their legal protections would be equal in the UK and, say Bulgaria; or Hungary; or Greece.

Anonymous said...

"Their view is not relevant - they must do as they are instructed by the British people. "

About damn time someone said this. And 'up yours' too to the ACPO, which should be disbanded, and the ground on which it currently stands salted.

Anonymous said...

Still, isnt it nice to see Bernard Hogan Howe receiving a New Years Honour!

Blue Eyes said...

I'm a bit confused as to the background to this. I thought that the UK had the treaty right to opt out of all the criminal stuff and that the government was taking advantage of that.

Blue Eyes said...

I'm a bit confused as to the background to this. I thought that the UK had the treaty right to opt out of all the criminal stuff and that the government was taking advantage of that.

Autonomous Mind said...

There is a slight problem in your reasoning here, Raedwald. While the police are supposed to serve us, they actually work for the local authorities that pay them.

Now, here's the problem. The local authorities who responsible for the police and the chief officer appointments have direct contact with the organs of the EU and advance the EU's agenda regardless of what central government says and does.

Many 'local' initiatives that emerge from County and Town Halls originate in Brussels and are driven by the political civil servants and agencies in spite of there being no mandate for this from the voters.

So it is no surprise the police are bought in to the EU vision - especially as it affords them more authoritarian power and reduces controls on them.

In a democracy this could be corrected. But we clearly live in a post-democratic age.

Anon 2 said...

Oh, Autonomous Mind ... thank you for this useful info: Now, here's the problem. The local authorities who responsible for the police and the chief officer appointments have direct contact with the organs of the EU and advance the EU's agenda regardless of what central government says and does.
This means then, that the euro militia is in place, and well on its way to full development. At the same time, our armed forces are depleted and under some foreign control.

That is to say: we'd better hurry up with that peaceful revolution...
Once their "divisive rhetoric"* has incited enough discord and mayhem, they'll set to: ENFORCING "normalisation" under the euSSR's regime.

{And note how we've already accepted the change in policing imagery: from 'bobbies on bicycles' to the armed "law enforcement" preferred in authoritarian europe --whence the US adopted the concept).


*Thx. Raedwald in previous post

Gordon the Fence Post Tortoise said...

Ha!

The police don't need EU assistance perverting their mission - it would seem.

Check out the stats HERE

That said - the EU want to bring back seditious libel... so can I say - that if there's a whip round for a cake with a file in it for Raedwald - count me in.

Gordon the Fence Post Tortoise said...

Careful what you say about the EU