Tuesday, 17 September 2013

GTA 5 Out! 12 Dead!

OK I'm expecting a tirade of defensiveness from outraged GTA (that's Grand Theft Auto for those not in the know) players for even daring to suggest any linkage whatsoever between violent video games and the loosening of self-restraint that led an aggressive disgruntled ex-employee to kill 12 workmates at Washington Navy Yard. No doubt the NRA are going through their records making sure he wasn't a member, too. Unfortunately he was black, giving racist apologists for his actions the excuse to blame them on negritude rather than badness. 

No, I've never played GTA and don't want to. Back in the 1990s I played a crude shoot-em-up called I think somewhat improbably 'Wittgenstein' in which the victims' Naziness was supposed to excuse the tasteless blood splatter. After that, none. And I've never understood the perverse dual standard that makes it OK to sell video games in which you kill people horribly but illegal to sell games in which you make love with them (and no I don't play those either). 

It's just a bit sick, that's all. The whole genre just induces a little unpleasant vomity taste. Which will remain no matter how many GTA-playing but otherwise spotlessly idoneous Anglican clergy that correspondents produce.   

UPDATE - You'd need a heart of stone 
"Grand Theft Auto fan hit with brick and stabbed as gang rob him of computer game" 
Tonight's Standard

13 comments:

Weekend Yachtsman said...

Agreed; can't see the point of it, never could.

Leave such things to spotty teenagers.

But then - chacun a son gout and all that.

Anton Diffring said...

That's "Wolfenstein" - though "Wittgenstein" is a pretty good if improbable malapropism... Me too. I played it in the 90s, primitive by current standards, probably on a 386 PC. Since then likewise - no games at all, unlike my son and his friends who have left their teens but still do some gaming. One trusts they will leave it behind soon - I know of one adult who seems to do nothing else outside office hours (he's a minor local authority clerical type) but sit glued to his games/monitor, a pitiful type with limited social skills.

Anonymous said...

Yeah ban chess. Witness the carnage of players (black as well as white which is very telling) and the final torturous ending with the opposing King being cornered before his ultimate, grizzly demise.
To link violent video games (no such thing it's not real you know) to widespread mayhem in real life is beyond the pale.

Mr Ecks said...



The idea that playing some violent video daftness is going to turn an ordinary, well-intentioned human into a nutty killer is laughable. If that is all it takes then anything could do it. How many killings are there in "The Three Musketeers"or "Treasure Island" for God's sake. A small boy shoot an adult male to death in that last one (Israel Hands). Those peddling this line are censorship fans and friends of the state, which has done more real-life killings than have been in all the "Grand Theft Auto" ever played or ever will be played.

cuffleyburgers said...

I suspect that these games actually function rather like pornography where there would appear to be a demonstrable link between increased use of and reduced sex crimes.

in the case of mass shootings there is the unfortunate copycat phenomenon where undoubtedly for a certain kind of sick mentality the wall to wall media coverage these episodes receive doubtless acts as an irresistible attraction.

the problem is not video games and it is not (mainly) gun laws. The problem is a certain kind of mentally sick individual and my opinion is that if these shocking and disgusting outrages were dealt with in a more matter of fact way they would occur less often.

they seldom seem to happen in Switzerland, Finland, Israel or other countries where gun ownership is fairly common.

Anonymous said...

Aparently Obama wants to ban GTA and bomb Syria in the same week.

As a youth I used to play at soldiers, cowboys and Indians, musketeers, cops and robbers, Romans and Christians and loads more of play acting that required lots of pretend killing. To date neither I, nor anybody I know have actually killed anyone.

Anonymous said...

Mr Ecks: "The idea that playing some violent video daftness is going to turn an ordinary, well-intentioned human into a nutty killer is laughable."

If you watched Treasure Island continiously every waking hour, then even TI might have the potential to 'condition' a mind to a particular behavior.

Bill Quango MP said...

I've played all the GTA series. And bought V today.
It's 8 meg! My Xbox is 2 meg! Need to buy a hard drive just to play it.

They are terrific games but I haven't finished one since vice city. Too much repetition, too little time.

I haven't ever stolen a car either.
Somehow the go mad and bad and rob, kill, maim in real life must just not affect me.

Weird?

Anonymous said...

Religion anyone?

Rush-is-Right said...

Mr Ecks..... "The idea that playing some violent video daftness is going to turn an ordinary, well-intentioned human into a nutty killer is laughable."

Quite so. But maybe for inadequate, loser, low-information misfits it's not quite so laughable.

I never played Wolfenstein, but I did enjoy its successors Doom and Quake and got pretty good at them. Top stuff IMO.

Anonymous said...

rom a visual standpoint, the world of GTA V embodies an interesting contradiction: on the one hand, it’s so beautiful it can look almost un-real — like a painting. On the other, it seems hyper-real — the exaggerated version of real life that the GTA series takes as its founding principle. Open-world developers are getting better and better at art direction, and Rockstar’s are the masters. It seems like every time you turn a corner, whether in Franklin’s tagged-up neighborhood or Trevor’s desert hell

Gta 5 Free Download xbox said...

rom a visual standpoint, the world of GTA V embodies an interesting contradiction: on the one hand, it’s so beautiful it can look almost un-real — like a painting. On the other, it seems hyper-real — the exaggerated version of real life that the GTA series takes as its founding principle. Open-world developers are getting better and better at art direction, and Rockstar’s are the masters. It seems like every time you turn a corner, whether in Franklin’s tagged-up neighborhood or Trevor’s desert hell

TrT said...

"Mr Ecks..... "The idea that playing some violent video daftness is going to turn an ordinary, well-intentioned human into a nutty killer is laughable."

Quite so. But maybe for inadequate, loser, low-information misfits it's not quite so laughable."

Should we ban smoking, to protect those unable to understand the risks?
Ban cars, unless someone runs over their neighbour?
Ban Shakespere, thats pretty violent.