Monday, 29 September 2014

A warning to both UKIP and the Conservative Party

Here is a warning to both UKIP and the Conservative Party from a voter of the centre-right: Don't put party before country. We don't really give a flying fig for the squabble as to which will be the dominant party of the right. We do care if your silly, inverted party squabbling allows that Marxist fool Miliband against all laws of nature and reason to form the next government.

And don't either of you dare tell me, or the voters of England, that it's our fault.

Somehow, anyhow, before next May you're both going to have to find some way to ensure that the votes of the right, if they're greater than than the number of votes of the left, result in a government of the right. I don't care how you do it; I don't care about your parties, or your leaders, only for the outcomes desperately needed by this nation, this England. 

So please, both of you - country first, party second.  

11 comments:

Anonymous said...


"And don't either of you dare tell me, or the voters of England, that it's our fault."

It's our fault, for trusting the slippery bastards.

It's our fault, for voting for one or other then taking our eye off them for the next five years.

It's our fault, for blindly supporting the PARTY, whatever constitutional outrage it perpetrates.

It's our fault, for allowing the party hierarchy to distort its member selection procedures to the advantage of the central cabal.

It's our fault, for supporting a corrupt Tory party, when we should have organised at a local level along independent Conservative lines right back, even when Heath was the slimy leader of the party.

It's our fault, for being gulled.

Nick Drew said...

in addressing politicians thus, there is an underlying problem:

the purists don't really care about power (look in thier eyes, they are bonkers); and the power-hungry don't really care about principle (look in their eyes ...)

as regards the prize falling into Miliband's lap: I don't follow the demographics of Scotland too closely, but is there not a scenario where Salmond (sorry, Sturgeon) holds the balance of power?

(or does total wipeout for Labour north of the border simply relegate Mili to an irrelevance)

formertory said...

A vain hope. Until we elect truly independent MPs with the brief of holding a separately-elected Government to account for its promises and actions, we're stuffed. Party first, always.

Anonymous said...

Until we have MPs who are totally answerable to their constituients you are pissing into the wind R asking them to put country before party/trough.

A proper recall law is the only thing that is going to make them take any notice of the electorate once they have their trotters on the gravy train.

As for Cameroon saying he is going to get the "liars".
Pot, kettle, black and the odd bolt of lightning springs to mind.
Not that that EU Quisling would know the difference.

G. Tingey said...

Actually, the collapse of the Labour vote in its Scottish heartlands is a symptom.
I think UKIP are probably a threat to Labour as well ... just that their "leadership" (you can stop laughing now) don't realise it, yet.
P.S. Milibean is not a "Marxist" - oddly enough it would be better if he was.
He is (just) a fool, which is actually a lot more dangerous.

visc said...

You are falling into the assumption that UKIP is a replacement Tory party - if that is all it is then it then it will lose its support from 'Old Labour' voters concerened with Europe, governance and immigration issues.

The idea that Milliband whilst and idiot is necessarily an idiot magnitudes worse than the one we have now is nonsense. Thsi is akin to the Big Endian and Little Endian arguments the Lilliptians had; Crappy tribalism which got us where we are in now.

Btw won't make much difference who gets in after 1st Novemeber 2014 and the Lisbon / Nice Treaty being given assent by the Queen, the traitorous old bag.

Cascadian said...

I agree with Greg, UKIP are a threat to both parties but potentially more of a threat to liebour. The greybeards who have voted tribally for liebour and the conmen realise they have been lied to and have watched the parasites ruin their country since 1945. They are in a mood for revenge and revolt.

The panic from the jockland vote, worked well for camoron, he is attempting to roll it out against UKIP. It worked, Raedwald is panicking again. People are so unused to democracy they forget it can be messy.

Budgie said...

I can't agree with your "voter of the centre right", Raedwald. His view is just a redressing of the 'don't vote UKIP, it will let Miliband in' claim. And it is just a claim. Moreover if UKIP does sign up to an electoral pact with the Tories they are finished.

Cameron has had (nearly) 5 years to do sensible things for the benefit of the country. He has miserably failed. If the LibDems had formed a coalition with Labour, Brown would have been out on his ear (LibDem condition) and we probably would have Badger as Chancellor. I cannot see that this scenerio would have been worse than what we have had.

No, a pox on voting "tactically" (ie voting out of fear), this time I'm going to vote for what I want. And if everybody does that we will get the government we want.

DeeDee99 said...

Well the Tories have a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate that they will put country before party - by declining to stand in Clacton, Rochester and Heywood/Middleton.

Guess what. They're putting party before country.

I v. much doubt that there will be any kind of rapprochement all the time Cameron and his clique are representing the Tory Grandees.

Cascadian said...


"before next May you're both going to have to find some way to ensure that the votes of the right, if they're greater than than the number of votes of the left, result in a government of the right. I don't care how you do it; I don't care about your parties, or your leaders, only for the outcomes desperately needed by this nation, this England."...........Well thank Boris, he has upped the fruitcakes and swivel-eyed loons ante, he is doing everything he can to ensure defections to UKIP. At this rate the conmen might be an Eton rump of about twenty seats come next election.

Conservative desperation is palpable

James Higham said...

Forlorn hope, Radders.