Saturday, 14 February 2015

Archbishop says 'sorry' for Agincourt

In a bizarre speech in Normandy today, Archbishop Justin Welby apologised to the French for the killing of several hundred French prisoners at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. On the 600th anniversary of the battle, Archbishop Welby said
"On that day in October English soldiers brought death and destruction on a scale and with a ferocity it is impossible to imagine,’ he said. "Much debate surrounds this most controversial aspect of the battle. Whatever the arguments, events here 600 years ago left a deep wound and diminished all our humanity. So as a follower of Karl Marx I stand here among you with a profound feeling of regret and deep sorrow."
The grovelling apology mystified the French, who until now have largely understood the actions of King Henry V at the battle and no criticism has been levelled at England.

Welby's staff have also criticised the BBC's coverage of the anniversary, claiming it glorified an English victory at a time when the nations of Europe needed to unite in a European Federation:-
"English churchmen worked tirelessly to promote understanding and cooperation between the European churches and to encourage the political institutions of the European nations to work for the common good and focus on what they shared, not what divided them. That history  is an enduring argument for continuing to build structures of trust and cooperation between the nations of Europe"
Welby also defended the Church's tax avoidance schemes, particularly the use of exemptions from capital gains tax to use income from investments to fund current expenditure, and the Church's investments in arms companies BAe and Babcock. 

Archbishop Welby is 19. 

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Did Williams set him up for this?


As God is his witness, why does he seek to visit the spavined piss of PC - on a culture, a populace and war which knew not about appeasement, equivocation and the ability to prove one's idiocy by, opening the gob before putting the brain into gear, then making downright stupid comments.

Rush is Right said...

Since I was a schoolboy there has only been one Archbishop of Canterbury who did not strike me as a complete bloody fool (George Carey being the exception.) To observe that the C of E is in vertical decline causes no surprise whatsoever.

DeeDee99 said...

I hope the Archbishop is also going to apologise for the atrocities carried out in the name of the church.

I seem to recall quite a number of beheadings and burnings carried out because people had a different religion to the Church of England.

I believe compensation should be paid to the descendants of these victims of C of E violence .... and I'm sure I must therefore be due a tidy sum.

G. Tingey said...

And people wonder why I'm an atheist ......

Anonymous said...


Why is this not being reported in the mainstream press and this prat being summarily dismissed by the Queen?

Sebastian Weetabix said...

I always thought C of E vicars were all atheists, but simply enjoy the lifestyle. Effete, pensioned, limp wristed do-gooders, the lot of 'em.

Budgie said...

G Tingey said: " And people wonder why I'm an atheist ......"

Sorry to disappoint, but no one gives a damn.

Anonymous said...

If it's a 'regret' then that's a nice way of NOT saying 'sorry', when you think that the death, injury, pain and loss suffered by the Germans must have been pretty distressing for them, but equally, they deserved it.

One is even less sorry when the impersonal "it is regrettable that ..." is used instead of "I regret that ..."

Anonymous said...

He (Welby) seems to forget, we handed their country back to them, twice!

Right from the get go you could see how this leftist creature would be more suited to politics than the Church.

The Faith

'I saw them march from Dover, long ago,
With a silver cross before them, singing low,
Monks from Rome from their home where the blue sea breaks in foam,
Augustine with his feet of snow.'

And these are reckoned to be the words (of a king's counsellor)) that pursuaded King Ethelbert (Northumbrian Englisc) to convert to Christianity:

'The life of a man, O king, is like a sparrow's flight through a bright hall when one sits at meat in the winter with the fire alight in the hearth, and the icy rainstorm without. The sparrow flies in at one door and stays for a moment in the light and heat, then flying out the other, vanishes into the wintry darkness.
So stays for a moment the life of man, but what it is before and what after, we know not. If this new teaching can tell us, let us follow it!'

This was faith without politics - and I'm talking to you, Mr Welby.

Steve

Brightside Bob said...

Re: Sebastian Weetabix.

"I always thought C of E vicars were all atheists, but simply enjoy the lifestyle."

I blame Jane Austin! She portrayed 'The Church' as a lifestyle choice rather than a vocation.

Anonymous said...

It's not April 1st, yet.

Cascadian said...

“When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse”...Osama bin Laden.

Church of England, the weak (not to say flaccid) horse.

And you will not hear one word of complaint from camoron.

Anonymous said...

If we hadn't won Agincourt, then the French would have beaten us to pulp - so that's OK I suppose. The man should be put down, a danger to us all.

Anoneumouse said...

Justin Welby will soon be saying sorry for wiping out Ebola soon.

And all Ebola really wanted was just a hug.

Anoneumouse said...

Oh and dont forget he will also have the opportunity of turning up in Brussels on the 18th of June and apologize for the battle of Waterloo.

G. Tingey said...

SW
I am neither limp-wristed not a "do-gooder" now piss orf.

Oh & as an ex-archer I think Welby should be used for target practice.

Anonymous said...

He which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Coney Island

Sebastian Weetabix said...

@Tingey: what the fuck do you think my comment has to do with you? Are you a vicar? Do you interpret everything through the prism of 'me, myself, and I'?

Piss off yourself, you attention seeking cunt.

G. Tingey said...

SW
I'm getting realy really tired of your mean, petty spiteful personal abuse.
R=Try answering the subject umder discussion for a change

Anon
Yes, good piece of Straford Bill, but, err - wtf is that to do with the subject ubder discussion - whi is the uselessness of Welby?
Seriously, I mean it

As for steve/anopn
err ... "faith" is belief without evidence - sometimes called GULLIBILITY

Gerald said...

War is a fascinating subject. Despite the dubious morality of using violence to achieve personal or political aims. It remains that conflict has been used to do just that throughout recorded history.

Your article is very well done, a good read.