Saturday, 12 December 2015

Old chums act blocks Blackman review

The Mail publishes a photo this morning of some scruffy git in a waiter's jacket onto which some items of bling have been inexpertly fastened; a gorget patch has come adrift, outsized epaulettes distort the thin catering-suppliers' fabric, the thing sags, like a canvas sack or those £9.99 'top gun' fancy dress outfits from eBay. It turns out the smug but scruffy git is HM's new governor of Gibraltar, and previous Royal Marines boss, whom the Mail accuses of being complicit, with his red-tabbed and thick-ringed chums, in throwing Sergeant Blackman to the dogs to suppress criticism of fellow naval and RM officers. 

Sigh. Twas ever thus. There is nothing more disloyal and self-interested than a senior officer who may catch some passing flak from an incident. They're about as reliable as chocolate teapots, and Len Murray could have learned a thing or two about the trade-union of general officers. The Mail story tells how they bullied and diverted witnesses, doctored reports to remove any criticism of anyone except Sgt Blackman and have consistently blocked and sabotaged review of Blackman's conviction.  

Shameful.

14 comments:

leila3 said...

Attack State Red written by Col Richard Kemp and Chris Hughes tell of instructions to 'wait to be fired upon' and' not to fire if the Taliban was seen to be unarmed' Just such an incident occurred when unarmed Taliban were seen on a camp perimeter moving around at dusk, just out of clear sight. The next day a Chinese mortar the size of a rugby ball landed squarely amongst the men causing horrific injuries and fatalities. There is something sinister going on. How do we identify exactly what it is and even more importantly how do we oppose it. I am glad to see my PayPal payment to the Sgt Blackman defence fund every time I log into my account

mikebbravo said...

I all comes back to the same people. The traitorous and self aggrandizing political class.

What were we doing there in the first place? Nobody has ever subdued the area. Not us, not the Russians nor the ever useless septics. We had no reason to try. It is no longer a trade route to the east.

The indigenous tribes have always melted away until they see an opportunity to massacre the unwelcome invaders.
We had no plan, no strategy and no real hope.

Every soldier that was killed and maimed out there was sacrificed for political kudos by the verminous political class.

The sooner I see their heads on spikes on Westminster bridge the better!

Anonymous said...

So what did Sgt Blackman do?

A. Shot a dying enemy combatant lying on the ground - he'd been struck by 30mm cannon rounds fired from an Apache gunship.

What did Sgt Blackman say he did?

A. Shot a corpse.

Difference?

Give or take 2 mins.

Most soldiers would say he put the man out of his misery, which is somewhat more than your average Taliban would have extended had the situation been reversed. Once the politicians learned about it Sgt Blackman's card was marked, hence all the fiddling to get him convicted.

We're governed by scum who break the rules to suit whatever it is they want to happen. Its called power and that's why we're in the shit we're in, every hour of every day of every year.

In my opinion Sergeant Blackman should been busted to Corporal, with loss of seniority.

Steve

mikebravo said...

Steve - from trial report. Don't know how true it is.

A video caught him telling the dying man: "There you are, shuffle off this mortal coil, you cunt. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us."

I don't have a problem with it. Probably would have done similar myself. How did the video come into the hands of seniors though?

Anonymous said...

mikebravo said @ 17:32

I 'don't have a problem with it. Probably would have done similar myself'

Most of us would, you look down at a bloke who's obviously finished and you help him on his way. The words uttered by Blackman could be just thinking aloud, because in the weeks leading up to this incident the Taliban were abusing our dead (his oppos) by hanging pieces of them from trees.

'How did the video come into the hands of seniors though?'

SIB were looking for something in the room of an NCO who'd served with Blackman and found the video on his laptop. Instead of losing it they blabbed and it went up the chain. The rest is history. No love lost between the RMP and Royal these days. I'm ex-29 CDO myself.

Steve

mikebbravo said...

Cant see the difference between slotting a wounded but moving enemy, sniping a target from 800m or blowing up an oil tanker myself.
As always the enemy at home are the worst and most deserving targets.

anon 2 said...

I agree with all, esp. Mikebbravo @1928 (tho' I'm not ex forces).

I've just had occasion to re-read "Animal Farm" - which is given to the children as a 'satire about the Russian Revolution, focusing on Stalin/Lenin and Trotsky'. I note, however, that Orwell set his farm in 'the green, green, grass of Home' - and I wonder if he did so (1943-1945) to warn us that demoralisation, destabilisation, crisis, and normalisation were likely to happen here. Stalin having figured largely at Yalta, Orwell already knew how the communist-propaganda-media manipulation- re-education deal worked, and he may well have understood how it related to the Daoist "parsimony" theory in Sun-zi's "Art of War".

Even though we haven't been re-growing any Churchills, the sooner we get back to taking care of our own welfare the better. I'm hoping there'll still be some lamp-posts and piano wire around for a while.

Anonymous said...

Harry says;

At first I struggled with my 'take' on this, the Law of Armed Conflict / Geneva convention etc, and believed that justice must take it's course. In the passing months I have come to believe that Sgt. Blackman has been sacrificed on the altar of PC and to burnish the credentials of senior officers. If I had sat on his court martial, as I did on several others (as a senior Warrant Officer in a Line Regiment) I would have found him not guilty. There is no difference in my mind between his actions and death by a drone making a second pass. A light skim of contemporary reports throughout the ages shows that this kind of thing has happened regularly. The advance of recording technology has muddied the waters and made it 'difficult' for those that have never faced the enemy. Well said Mike Bravo and others above.

G. Tingey said...

Nasty
Very nasty.
I don't like it.

Anonymous said...

Busted to Corporal? Fuck me, the man should be given a medal. There's a judge, some prosecutors and a bunch of senior officers who also deserve the epithet cunts and to be given the same treatment, i.e. to be shuffled off this mortal coil, pronto.

We are arming our police, who go round murdering innocents, tasering the helpless and driving like lunatics in pointless chases where they occasionally murder someone with their lack of skill - sad accident that, mate. We know that they lie to order, or just for the hell of it. When it matters, they are useless. If one of them had even a fraction of Blackman's bollocks they'd have executed Adelbolajo and his scum companion.

It will end badly, believe me.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said @ 12:15

'Busted to Corporal? Fuck me, the man should be given a medal'

Calm down mate, the video evidence can't be ignored altogether. My point was he stays in the job he loved - and believe me within a year or so he'd be a Sergeant again, and go on to collect his pension.

If one of them had even a fraction of Blackman's bollocks they'd have executed Adelbolajo and his scum companion.

That was never going to happen as plod were ordered to use the special ammuntion they get issued for cases like Woolwich.

So the ammo has a low muzzle velocity and no headshots are allowed = no martyrs.

Steve

Anonymous said...

Harry says;

Steve, you are;

a. Wrong - low velocity will kill, the idea is that it doesn't penetrate at a speed that will cause ricochets and injure others.

b. Out of date - Head-shots are essential (to nullify the nervous system) if the target may be wearing an explosive device.

c. The video evidence is largely oral & does not show the Sgt's actions only his words.

Anonymous said...

There's a judge, some lawyers and some senior officers whose pensions should be sequestered to pay this bloke.

Anonymous said...

Harry said @ 16:32

Steve, you are;

a. Wrong - low velocity will kill, the idea is that it doesn't penetrate at a speed that will cause ricochets and injure others.

With that answer what am I wrong about? A low velocity bullet of the type used will stop in the body it struck.

b. Out of date - Head-shots are essential (to nullify the nervous system) if the target may be wearing an explosive device.

Absolutely, but there were no head shots. Both lived despite the police MP5 being operated from a supported position with the target moving toward to the point of aim.

c. The video evidence is largely oral & does not show the Sgt's actions only his words.

Alex Blackman testified it was his voice in the video and it was his shot that was heard being fired (at the Taliban lying on the ground). He took responsiblity for what he did. The matter should have been dealt with at unit level as a negligent discharge (ND). That is my opinion.

Steve