One needs the skills of a Kremlinologist these days to work out the changing political messages. Politicans are like oil tankers in terms of manoeverability and you won't ever see dramatic change of course, but instead rafts of little signals are floated out as pathfinders. So the French PM tells KSA that France is on the verge of banning its mosque-funding - in effect an admission that we all know that it's Wahabbist / Salafist subversion that is leading the Sunni terror war.
And today Charles Moore. Mr Moore has always been the unofficial voice of the Conservative leadership, defender of Cameron's greatest foreign policy inanities and defender of the establishment status-quo. Yet today's piece in the Telegraph is both revolutionary and outspoken; Islamism must be fought, and non-violent Islam resisted in changing our societies. To be frank, it's as radical as anything I've seen from an establishment spokesperson.
Are we getting signals that real change is on the way, or are these just emollient words to keep the proles quiet?