tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post2509596879967613504..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: Post-election Parliament must be ready for a raft of emergency BillsRaedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-83293340415638363252017-05-03T01:19:41.371+01:002017-05-03T01:19:41.371+01:00Dadad, The EEA and the the EFTA are quite separate...Dadad, The EEA and the the EFTA are quite separate. They should not be conflated.<br /><br />The European Economic Area is the EU's single market extended to nations outside the EU. As such any nation (EFTA or not) must obey EU single market rules, which only the EU makes and imposes.<br /><br />The European Free Trade Association is a treaty organisation quite separate from the EU, and does as its name suggests. A nation can be a member of the EFTA without being a member of the EEA.<br /><br />Norway is a member of both. Switzerland is only a member of EFTA.Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-24962978021838843972017-05-02T13:06:16.729+01:002017-05-02T13:06:16.729+01:00Being in EEA/EFTA does mean that we are outside, r...Being in EEA/EFTA does mean that we are outside, repeat outside, the EU.Dadadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-54524062302112651132017-05-02T08:06:26.824+01:002017-05-02T08:06:26.824+01:00Our negotiating position for starters is actually ...Our negotiating position for starters is actually really simple. "We are leaving without any deal - goodbye."<br /><br />We don't need two years, it's just a waste of our time. Let's just get on with it.<br /><br />That particular stance (which is the correct one) would jolt other EU members to their senses because right now, they think Germany will sort all this out for them. It would also jolt Germany's major manufacturing industries into pressurising their own government into seeing sense.Poisonedchalicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877122279794559618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-90737389490870341282017-05-01T22:06:47.010+01:002017-05-01T22:06:47.010+01:00Mr Ecks is quite right about Richard North. Basica...Mr Ecks is quite right about Richard North. Basically he wants a new EU on his terms and anyone that disagrees will be shot.<br /><br />Perhaps we need to send Brussels a new version of 'No Charge' by Harland Howard - For coming to yoir aid in 1914, no charge; For coming to your aid in 1939, no charge; For giving child benefits to imaginary Polish children, no charge etc. etc.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-43172451199815582472017-05-01T21:16:11.862+01:002017-05-01T21:16:11.862+01:00Brexit will be decided the same way all decisions ...<br />Brexit will be decided the same way all decisions are made - by those with the most to gain financially. If those elite money-grubbers think Brexit would deliver them a windfall from their investments/double-dealings then it will go ahead. If there was any possibility of those elitists LOSING so much as a penny then it won't happen.<br /><br />The needs of the nation fall into insignificance when compared to the greed of the rest.Dave_Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-40541350277043700982017-05-01T19:57:42.062+01:002017-05-01T19:57:42.062+01:00Mr Ecks: "Once BluLabour get us in we won'...Mr Ecks: "Once BluLabour get us in we won't ever be leaving "<br /><br />The one thing we don't want to be doing is finding things so buggered we try to rejoin.<br /><br />And sure as eggs is eggs, the thing to get Labour re-elected with a three hundred seat majority would be for the UK economy to be crashed as a result of loss of Continental trade.<br /><br />Mr Ecks: "EU referendum as it is a ego trip by Richard North."<br /><br />1. Richard North has been contemplating our exit strategy for a good eighteen months before the referendum. At least he has one.<br /><br />2. The Tory party had been counting on a remain result, how else can you account for their utter surprise at the result - and lack of any exit strategy at all!APLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08353111635255109337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-21404173508678560652017-05-01T18:45:55.371+01:002017-05-01T18:45:55.371+01:00We will need emergency wartime powers and more imp...We will need emergency wartime powers and more importantly a national consensus that may mean a wartime cabinet - with opposition ministers sitting in government....yes, yes, yes that's what yUK needs! Corbyn as minister of defence , McConnel negotiating the UDI threat, Ms Balls (if she survives the election) as tea-girl. That's the route to certain destruction. <br />Whatever the future holds for yUK, nobody could wish a worse prescription for another century of managed decline.<br />You had better wish that LePen gets elected or you will be freezing in the dark very soon.<br />Cascadiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-89174313275046071832017-05-01T18:14:45.961+01:002017-05-01T18:14:45.961+01:00If the awful bunch of time-servers in Brussels thi...If the awful bunch of time-servers in Brussels think they can bill us, then let's see the accounts they haven't had signed off since the likes of Kinnock and Mandelson were hanging about, doing bugger all.<br /><br />It's easy, tell them all to piss off. Scrobs.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12942449871600526680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-10695549186041277772017-05-01T17:01:18.184+01:002017-05-01T17:01:18.184+01:00Don't waste your time with EU referendum as it...<br />Don't waste your time with EU referendum as it is a ego trip by Richard North. <br /><br />Stuff the EEA/EFTA --it is just the EU lite. Once BluLabour get us in we won't ever be leaving.Mr Ecksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-69041710497107741052017-05-01T13:30:51.928+01:002017-05-01T13:30:51.928+01:00Don't be so alarmist. Mrs M is calling this e...Don't be so alarmist. Mrs M is calling this election so that she can ignore her extremist brexiteers and go for the EEA/EFTA option which will do us very well in the interim as a holding pattern while we negotiate what we actually want.<br /><br />Don't forget that leaving the EU is a process, not an event. It will take 10 years or more to accomplish all we desire. <br /><br />Read EUreferendum.com every day.<br />Dadadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-91666683318149474982017-05-01T11:22:52.168+01:002017-05-01T11:22:52.168+01:00The EU has yet again seriously misjudged the situa...The EU has yet again seriously misjudged the situation. The notion of having to pay silly money, effectively allow a United Ireland and bend the knee on Gibraltar is utterly ridiculous and no PM should even entertain the idea. Have we not paid enough over the years for God's sake? I feel much like Steven Woolfe does in this speech in the EU parliament - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4RocljNAE<br /><br />I fear wiser heads will not prevail and we will leave with a very hard Brexit. If that's the case, then fine, but the EU will have shot itself in the foot. They really don't think that we're going to walk away do they. Oh, how they have so badly misjudged us.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />rapscallionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-13533622164700080852017-05-01T10:34:51.878+01:002017-05-01T10:34:51.878+01:00"...temporary state control of food, fuel and..."...temporary state control of food, fuel and power..."<br /><br />If you think that in the current anti-freedom climate, such things would be in any way temporary, you delude yourself.<br /><br />Let us hope and pray that wiser counsels prevail.Peter MacFarlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05554166005487231094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-57426030152159329162017-05-01T10:29:00.305+01:002017-05-01T10:29:00.305+01:00Although the immediate rhetoric and threats emanat...Although the immediate rhetoric and threats emanating from Brussels/Berlin is designed to influence both the UK and French elections there is no doubt that this axis wishes to harm the UK and the reason given that it is to "save the EU" is just an excuse to propagate economic war on us for historical reasons.<br /><br />The government needs to prepare for a UDI as the EU will try to keep us in their club for as long as possible to maximise our payments and obligations whilst restricting our freedom to act in our best interests.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368536835090304923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-34937846517817225142017-05-01T09:40:05.465+01:002017-05-01T09:40:05.465+01:00I think we should ask them if they meant last week...I think we should ask them if they meant last weeks statement. If they did, stop the transfer of UK money to the Commission at once. Pay the money into a holding account. Any planned EU expenditure in the UK can be met from this account. If we get a deal, they can get the money.backofanenvelopenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-590953868316542372017-05-01T09:20:30.600+01:002017-05-01T09:20:30.600+01:00Well said, RAC @ 08:57.
Problem is: Franco-Germa...Well said, RAC @ 08:57. <br />Problem is: Franco-German-Claptrap-Artists (aka Deconstructionist/Postmodern commies) never, never, ever, express anything simply. <br />That's the MO. <br />It keeps us idiots busy while they . . . anon 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-4052264202622148142017-05-01T08:57:47.858+01:002017-05-01T08:57:47.858+01:00Can anyone explain, in simple terms please, what w...Can anyone explain, in simple terms please, what we owe and why we owe anything at all. By my way of thinking we have been regularly paying (through the nose) into the eu, pay as you go if you will, I don't reckon we owe them a penny. <br />Instead of being presented with some ludicrous amount it needs to be broken down into infinite detail and each part of that examined closely.<br />We have paid our past dues and given them ample notice of our leaving. That a nation may one day leave has always been a possibility, if they built their empire on the notion that it could never happen and didn't plan for that contingency, tough shit. <br />RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-4344973328658109102017-05-01T08:41:25.668+01:002017-05-01T08:41:25.668+01:00The EU is basically demanding money with menaces: ...The EU is basically demanding money with menaces: it's an updated version of the tactics the Danes used in the 6th century.<br /><br />Our political class should read their Kipling:<br /><br />We never pay anyone Danegeld<br />No matter how trifling the cost<br />For the end of that game is oppression and shame<br />And the nation that pays it is lost.<br /><br /><br />http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_danegeld.htm<br /><br />Our political class have made the fundamental mistake of letting the Germans acquire through economic and legal means the European empire they couldn't get through more violent methods. We are going to have to fight back through economic and legal means.<br /><br />Boycott German and French products.<br />DeeDee99https://www.blogger.com/profile/06753473473887381622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-8227793665187991032017-05-01T08:15:11.633+01:002017-05-01T08:15:11.633+01:00The EU can threaten all it likes, no one should go...The EU can threaten all it likes, no one should go into negotiations without knowing what is being offered, no one pays first and then askes what have we paid for, if we take that route we are stuffed, and if they demand the money first, walk away, that is exactly how any business would react.wiggiatlargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01679399861131265080noreply@blogger.com