tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post7123477830124572176..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: Have the global corporates robbed Brexit?Raedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-69175911848964461922018-04-22T10:22:50.939+01:002018-04-22T10:22:50.939+01:00In 1976 you got 4 pints of Tolly for a quid and 20...In 1976 you got 4 pints of Tolly for a quid and 20 Embassy were 27.1/2p ....Raedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-6511758210566348492018-04-22T08:50:39.757+01:002018-04-22T08:50:39.757+01:00@ Smoking Scot 21:31
Can't agree with you ther...@ Smoking Scot 21:31<br />Can't agree with you there SS, Players navy cut were a top brand on a par with Capstan medium. The budget brands for untipped were Woodbines and Park Drive. RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-24773380524031846852018-04-22T08:29:33.595+01:002018-04-22T08:29:33.595+01:00To decimalise time would require 1000 hours in a d...To decimalise time would require 1000 hours in a day, each made of 1,000 minute and 1,000 seconds.<br /><br />1000x1000x1000= 1,000,000,000<br /><br />24x60x60 = 86,400<br /><br /><br /><br />10 or 100 hours/minutes/seconds would replicate the hectare being 10,000sqms farce.<br />10 hours, 100 minutes, 100 seconds gets you 100,000, close enough to 86400<br />But then you lose the roughly 8hours working, 8 hours playing, 8 houses sleeping split<br /><br /><br /><br />13x28 day months with 1 day out of the months, two in a leap yer, would seem a reasonable way to square the 365 circle, but again, its not "decimal"<br /><br /><br />Decimalisation was 1971, you're pushing 50 if you remember that.<br />The Metrication of 1995 and 2000 might be what most people younger than that remember, I remember signs at the cheese counter for that.TrThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316335177828136131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-944921740697913642018-04-21T21:31:39.751+01:002018-04-21T21:31:39.751+01:00@ RAC
Can't buy packs of 10 fags any longer, ...@ RAC<br /><br />Can't buy packs of 10 fags any longer, 20's only.<br /><br />Nor Players Navy Cut. Only fags with filters.<br /><br />As I recall they were a budget brand and the least expensive one can buy now are £7.65. Not correct to just divide that because the tobacco firms always placed a heavier margin on 10's. <br /><br />So that'll work out at about £3.89. On the ciggie side.Smoking Scotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-22196884533831760742018-04-21T20:37:34.702+01:002018-04-21T20:37:34.702+01:00I tend to calculate inflation in terms of a pint o...I tend to calculate inflation in terms of a pint of Guiness. When I first started visiting the pub it cost half a crown / two an six / arf a doller / two an a kick, or in the fake money that made us more like europe twelve and a half pence. The same price as ten Players navy cut, don't think they make those any more, though I stopped smoking a while back so not sure about that.RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-81225086920785929552018-04-21T11:26:32.180+01:002018-04-21T11:26:32.180+01:00Jack Ketch said: "this 'urban trousered-a...Jack Ketch said: "this 'urban trousered-ape' (I am so nicking that!)". If you do, please be aware of where it came from.<br /><br />In 1943 C S Lewis published "The Abolition of Man". In it he derides the man who conceives of the Atlantic as no more than so many million tons of cold salt water as a "mere trousered ape".<br /><br />Later Lewis describes the man who considers horses to be only an old-fashioned means of transport as an "irredeemable urban blockhead".<br /><br />In the circumstances of your reactionary defences of decimalisation and the "Common Market" (whatever that is), it seemed appropriate to combine the two.Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-33185580693140538292018-04-21T11:12:53.046+01:002018-04-21T11:12:53.046+01:00Jack Ketch, I'm a softie so I'll help you ...Jack Ketch, I'm a softie so I'll help you out.<br /><br />We are pretty much fixed with the solar year and sidereal year (difference 20 minutes 23 seconds). And we are fixed with the length of a day at "24" "hours" (give or take the odd millisecond).<br /><br />But we can divide up those fixed (ie repeating) periods in any way we choose. So we <i>could</i> have days of 10 newhours (1 newhour = 2.4 old fashioned pre-decimalisation hours); and hours of 100 newminutes etc.<br /><br />Almost everything we measure is in units that are entirely arbitrary. Our base units of length, mass and time, are just sizes we have whimsically decided upon, and have no more import than any other quantities. Lengths are now be defined in wavelengths of a particular light which is physically fixed (as far as we know) but the meter, the foot, etc, as units, are chosen by us.<br /><br />The only real issue is how ergonomic the units are. Whether the sub-divisions are 360, 60, 24, 20, 16, 12, or 10 is almost completely irrelevant.Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-42425956280239241922018-04-21T08:33:25.203+01:002018-04-21T08:33:25.203+01:00Apropos the old coinage... my old dad was on HMS R...Apropos the old coinage... my old dad was on HMS Renown in the war. Berthed in Alexandria harbour there used to be fun with the lads on the bumboats. Members of the ships company would throw farthings and ha’pennies into the water & the young local boys would swim down to the harbour bottom and get them, Egyptian poverty being what it was. One cruel soul took a farthing, wrapped it in silver foil, and chucked it in. A huge crows of bumboat boys practically drowned each other in their haste to grab it. The victor swarmed back up to the surface, soon realised what he had, and shouted out “you throw fucking Glasgow tanner* you c**t!!” <br /><br />Truly the Empire was a powerful force for the spread of British culture. <br /><br />* a sixpence, for the benefit of foreigners and ignorant youngsters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-65242557588363684662018-04-20T23:17:11.459+01:002018-04-20T23:17:11.459+01:00"Facebook has yesterday, with the flick of a ..."Facebook has yesterday, with the flick of a button, taken 1.5 billion users from the jurisdiction of the ECJ and EU data protection law to that of the US, just by shifting a paper HQ from Dublin. The new EU law imposes swinging fines for big US tech companies, so they move paper domicile."<br /><br />You write that as if it were a bad thing, which it is not. The EU laws are pure horse shit designed only to steal from those US techs. Facebook is a US firm, like it or not, and if EU citizens choose to deal with any US firm, including Facebook, that is none of the EU's business.Fred Znoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-44521563638174346532018-04-20T20:30:29.872+01:002018-04-20T20:30:29.872+01:00jack ketch will never in his remaining lifetime se...<i>jack ketch will never in his remaining lifetime see any difference that will require changes to his cigarette importing manoeuvres. </i>-cas<br /><br />"Your word in God's ear" as The Bestes Frau In The World's people say. jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-27814442225738698022018-04-20T20:07:22.823+01:002018-04-20T20:07:22.823+01:00Calm down fellas, it should be obvious by now that...Calm down fellas, it should be obvious by now that your wishes expressed at the polls count for NOTHING, there is not going to be a Brexit, just an ever-continuing extension of existing laws, trading agreements and membership remittances to the EU whilst yUK gets its shit together (hint-it will never happen, the Davis/May clown show are incapable of logical action). As I previously stated, jack ketch will never in his remaining lifetime see any difference that will require changes to his cigarette importing manoeuvres. You are slaves to the whims of morons.<br /><br />As to "If push comes to shove we can always resurrect the scaffold and lop-off their noggins." Well, I seem to remember dire threats that the day the lords voted against Brexit would be the day the crowds rise up and burn it to the ground, with lots of lamp-post swinging lords for added effect-I await with interest when this will occur, though I have a strong suspicion that it was over-heated rhetoric, mild grumbling as witnessed here , will suffice.<br /><br />I recognize my views are not always popular, so in an attempt to amuse you, I report from the colonies that the supreme court in Canaduh has just ruled that it is unlawful to transport beer from one province (think English county) to another and re-sell it. Further it is proving impossible to build an oil pipeline from one province to another due to various socialist gyrations of logic. Canaduh is proving to be a larger scale yUK, incapable of logical thinking or action.Cascadiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-26338228719116911172018-04-20T19:39:15.801+01:002018-04-20T19:39:15.801+01:00But actually much of his daily life revolves aroun...<i> But actually much of his daily life revolves around time and position, both using base 60 (sexagesimal) to measure in</i>-Budgie<br /><br />Correct this 'urban trousered-ape' (I am so nicking that!) if he is wrong but surely the measurement of time etc is pretty much dictated by the movement of the celestial bodies and would be almost impossible to convert into a practical metric system (didn't the French try after the revolution?)?jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-44834886463407412882018-04-20T19:28:46.731+01:002018-04-20T19:28:46.731+01:00Jack Ketch apparently has a typical non-technical ...Jack Ketch apparently has a typical non-technical urban trousered-ape reaction to anything not measured in tens. But actually much of his daily life revolves around time and position, both using base 60 (sexagesimal) to measure in. There's nothing magic, or even "modern" about units being divided by 10, 100, or even 10**5 (Pascals to a Bar).Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-2655725286838962122018-04-20T19:21:26.900+01:002018-04-20T19:21:26.900+01:00Jack Ketch, The sixpence coin was silver until 194...Jack Ketch, The sixpence coin <i>was</i> silver until 1947. Plenty were in circulation up to 1980.Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-16500471431083759812018-04-20T19:17:25.223+01:002018-04-20T19:17:25.223+01:00Raedwald: "there never was a guinea note or c...Raedwald: "there never was a guinea note or coin" Google is your friend - the first Guinea coin was issued in 1663, and the Guinea ceased being legal tender in 1971. Guineas, latterly regarded as being the equivalent of 21/-, probably stopped being regularly used when the Sovereign (20/-) took over in the early C19th.<br />Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-16246298771221978452018-04-20T18:46:33.682+01:002018-04-20T18:46:33.682+01:00The old money needs to be returned ASAPMr X
Now t...<i>The old money needs to be returned ASAP</i>Mr X<br /><br />Now <i>that</i> is the sort of question that we should be having a referendum on. And it might be fun to hear BrexSShiteurs grizzle about De La Rue not getting the contract to print the 10 bob notes. That said, if your friend the FFC has her way we will perhaps not have a currency to reform.jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-58496389948350352092018-04-20T18:23:18.253+01:002018-04-20T18:23:18.253+01:00elegant tanners (essential for Christmas puds) Rae...<i>elegant tanners (essential for Christmas puds)</i> Raed<br /><br />In my childhood Xmases it was a known as a 'silver sixpence' (Mother having married below herself). Don't think I can recall her ever saying 'tanner'.jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-25658559671342195852018-04-20T18:17:30.969+01:002018-04-20T18:17:30.969+01:00Heath was the worst conservative PM ever--so far (...<br /><br />Heath was the worst conservative PM ever--so far (depending on what sell-out the FFC tries to get away with).<br /><br />The fact Ketch that you can't do mental arithmetic is your problem. The old money needs to be returned ASAP. Today's young prats would have to up their game triple quick or be ripped of all over.Mr Ecksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-51915023709641119742018-04-20T18:10:05.632+01:002018-04-20T18:10:05.632+01:00Ah there were still Queen Victoria pennies in circ...Ah there were still Queen Victoria pennies in circulation in the late 1960s, rubbed smooth and browny bronze - lots of them. Little brassy chunky thrupennies, elegant tanners (essential for Christmas puds)and fat Imperial half-crowns, heavy in the hand. <br /><br />My favourite was the ruddy-brown ten bob note found inside birthday cards. <br /><br />And guineas of course confused foreigners - there never was a guinea note or coin, though suits in shop windows were always priced in guineas. Still, it's only ever been Sterling.<br /><br />An old boy here who died last year saw five different currencies in his life; first Krona, then Schillings, Reichmarks, Schillings again and finally Euros. It's no wonder the mainland Euros want stability. Raedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-30709816363637006952018-04-20T17:25:50.082+01:002018-04-20T17:25:50.082+01:00jack ketch said @ 16:48
'I recall being bemus...jack ketch said @ 16:48<br /><br />'I recall being bemused as a child that my Ol Dad referred to 10ps as '2bobs' ...when there clearly wasn't even one Bob on the 10p piece..'<br /><br />Your father referred to a 10p piece as '2bobs' because it was the equivalent of 2 shillings in old money. Furthermore a Base-12 (duodecimal) system for money improves ability at mental arithmetic.<br /><br />SteveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-30396226532117098882018-04-20T16:48:44.519+01:002018-04-20T16:48:44.519+01:00I'd suggest few under 25s here have a clue!
I...<i>I'd suggest few under 25s here have a clue!</i><br /><br />I turned 50 this year and I'd have to google the exact worth of most of the coinage from the era before common sense and base 10 broke out in our currency. 12 pence to a shilling and 20 shillings to the £? After that things get sketchy. I recall being bemused as a child that my Ol Dad referred to 10ps as '2bobs' ...when there clearly wasn't even one Bob on the 10p piece (even to this day my Ol' Dad still works out things in 'bob', despite a science degree). Two best things to happen in my early childhood were decimalisation & the Common Market. jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-31613169002849940912018-04-20T16:19:41.870+01:002018-04-20T16:19:41.870+01:00It's not only your American readers who need t...It's not only your American readers who need to know what a farthing is. I'd suggest few under 25s here have a clue!English Pensionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271488641341955140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-83934788662142106442018-04-20T16:07:12.997+01:002018-04-20T16:07:12.997+01:00
Your tripe my be obvious to you Ketchie but then...<br /><br />Your tripe my be obvious to you Ketchie but then you are none too bright anyway.<br /><br />You need to Ketch-up to reality. And sanity.<br /><br />Know where we can get any bargains in Russian gas BTW--outside of the Fatherland that is.<br /><br />Mr Ecksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-21144243528615806332018-04-20T15:02:38.658+01:002018-04-20T15:02:38.658+01:00There will be hell to pay if we don't properly...There will be hell to pay if we don't properly withdraw from the EU. Many, many eyes are on this historic de-coupling and the most important of these are the individuals who will take the matter to court, a la Gina Miller, if the government fails to deliver on the mandate.<br /><br />The EU is what we voted to either remain in, or leave:<br /><br /><i>A day will come when all nations on our continent will form a European brotherhood ... A day will come when we shall see ... the United States of America and the United States of Europe face to face, reaching out for each other across the seas</i> - <b>Victor Hugo, International Peace Congress, 1849</b><br /><br />Trust in the EU and it's institutions fell below 50 per cent in 2007 - is still below 50 per cent in 2017. Folk don't like it and it ain't getting any better. Folk like their countries the way they are and this desire alone is how Europe will hold on to it's wonderful character. Nobody had a problem with a Common Market. Folk do have a problem with lying bastards who trick you into unions run by unelected utopians.<br /><br />SteveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-2854589371734634952018-04-20T14:47:47.380+01:002018-04-20T14:47:47.380+01:00Smoking Scot said: "And let's not forget ...Smoking Scot said: "And let's not forget Mr. Farage who stated as the initial results came in that if it went against him, he'd continue the fight."<br /><br />There's a world of difference between, on the one hand, continuing to fight for what you believe in, and on the other, attempting to invalidate a democratic vote.<br /><br />I have no problem with Remains continuing to believe that the EU is democratic and the best thing since sliced bread if that floats their boat. But I will not accept Remains attempting to defeat the mandate to Leave given by the British people in the Referendum.Budgienoreply@blogger.com