tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post8039832531097154357..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: It's the 19th Century againRaedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-25985425751200246932019-06-15T07:08:12.905+01:002019-06-15T07:08:12.905+01:00A guy was murdered near me over Christmas
Two peop...A guy was murdered near me over Christmas<br />Two people hit him, he fell down and died, they ran off.<br /><br />6 years and 4 years.<br />So three and two with automatic early release, probably less than that.<br /><br />Now, they shouldn't be spiced up and raped in prison, but they shouldn't be out before the fatherless child left behind learns to read either.Domohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240964731398145995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-18146300427530360932019-06-14T07:49:33.234+01:002019-06-14T07:49:33.234+01:00Your calls for a return to the Ducking Stool would...Your calls for a return to the Ducking Stool would need further regression still, however.Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-55708589794849098952019-06-14T07:47:14.284+01:002019-06-14T07:47:14.284+01:00I'm beginning to think it's the 17th Centu...I'm beginning to think it's the 17th Century again ... Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-89348772520592925032019-06-13T22:14:44.493+01:002019-06-13T22:14:44.493+01:00@RAC
Cider fuelled 42 - love it :-) Oh, we'v...@RAC<br /><br />Cider fuelled 42 - love it :-) Oh, we've all done that. I remember that malarkey with the 303s from my time at England's first, last and only concentration camp - HMS Ganges. Slightest thing, the GI would have you doubling round Nelson Hall arms outstretched holding that blasted 303. Staff had a mind for all sorts of unusual punishments, like scrubbing out the Long Covered Way with your toothbrush in your overalls on a bitterly cold November morning at 05:00. The SS had nothing on our Instructors. Tell you what though, I left that place fitter than a butcher's dog and hard as nails - you had to be or you didn't survive the place. Strangely I look back on it with certain twisted fondness. How daft is that? Snowflakes today wouldn't last 5 seconds in that place.rapscallionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-89065694147179756432019-06-13T20:27:21.066+01:002019-06-13T20:27:21.066+01:00another wonderful 'history' post. Love it....another wonderful 'history' post. Love it. I wonder if many of those luvvies know what their pads are built on.<br /><br />I see there are a lot of very naughty navy boys on here. I was in the ice house twice, laces out, triple time, srubbing toilets, beastings, the works. the 2nd time actually the root cause of my medical discharge from the paras...not intentionally by them or me.Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-45603189510538531972019-06-13T16:51:49.587+01:002019-06-13T16:51:49.587+01:00@ rapscallion, It started off with 28 suspended fo...@ rapscallion, It started off with 28 suspended for 12 months but just before that expired I got a cider fueled 42 and they were both then joined together. It was 2 fags a day might have been 3 can't remember. Assault course every morning. Half the day PT the other half rifle drill, all done at the double every thing all day at the double. Rifle drill was using 303's, difficult when all the movements had been learnt with an SLR, mistakes had you doubling round the parade ground with the rifle held out horizontal to the side, if your arm started dropping down they'd give you another rifle to hold out at the other side to balance it up, hilarious. No talking to anyone apart from staff, "communicating" got you put on report, that place turned out some pretty good ventriloquists.There was much more it was a well planned itinerary. I felt sorry for the 53 class they were the recidivists they got all which we did but more so. RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-32453425470430722172019-06-13T15:38:33.061+01:002019-06-13T15:38:33.061+01:00RAC
Good God man, what did you do to get 70 days ...RAC<br /><br />Good God man, what did you do to get 70 days over the wall !<br />28 days was the norm, followed by 42 days if you'd really cocked it up, but 70 days - good grief. I was working up at Fort Southwick as a 17 yr old baby Radio Operator and was in Vicky Barracks overlooking Deeks. I felt sorry for the poor sods in there. Up at O' 5 sparrow fart, scrub yer cell out, 7 fags per day (and you had to give the butts back), doubling everywhere, eternal kit musters and God only know what else<br /><br />I can only imagine that Colchester for the pongoes and crabs was grim, but Deeks was always painted to us as very Hell on Earth, staffed by evil PTIs and Reggies.<br /><br />I can't say that I was an angel (I wasn't), I just never got caught, but Deeks put the fear of God in me.<br /><br />I take my hat off to you RAC. 70 days in Deeks - you must have been a right hard ba$tard :-)<br /><br />Anyway, that sort of punishment would be ideal for our transgressors - especially those from the RoPrapscallionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-18450175201976647692019-06-13T11:20:37.092+01:002019-06-13T11:20:37.092+01:00@ Penseivat What you say is true. Back in the earl...@ Penseivat What you say is true. Back in the early 1970's I got 70 days in RNDQ's, there was no remission there in fact I ended up having 73 days. The extra 3 were for the time I spent in the solitary cell on bread and water, seriously that happened. I could write a book about that place, however once out and on a plane to the Caribbean I decided it was a place best avoided in the future. RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-71669840299340410712019-06-13T10:54:31.245+01:002019-06-13T10:54:31.245+01:00@ Dave_G "I advocate 'sentence doubling&...@ Dave_G "I advocate 'sentence doubling' where for each conviction the accused must serve DOUBLE any prior sentence - with no restriction, limit or challenge "<br /><br />I have thought along similar lines but not for prison as I think it would just add to the overcrowding and cost. Prison for serious crime but for less serious the birch.<br />First offense 6 whacks.<br />Second offense six whacks, plus the first six obviously didn't work so you get those re-administered giving a total of twelve whacks.<br />Third offense six for the crime plus the previous twelve, total eighteen whacks.<br />And so on.<br />Even the most stupid scrote should be able to see the emerging pattern and the expectation of what is coming next.<br />Cost- minimal.<br />Time taken, from leaving the dock to being turfed out onto the street 30 minutes.RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-87103966123756811922019-06-13T09:36:11.486+01:002019-06-13T09:36:11.486+01:00'airmen' not 'chairmen'. Bloody pr...'airmen' not 'chairmen'. Bloody predictive text!Penseivathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12891041602104672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-83534626713754987082019-06-13T09:34:33.315+01:002019-06-13T09:34:33.315+01:00Instead of giving prisoners 50% off their sentence...Instead of giving prisoners 50% off their sentence 'for good behaviour' as soon as the prison van rolls through the gates, why not use the old military system used in their detention centres? The prisoner starts off with the punishment for the offence by having no privileges whatsoever. No tv, no computer, no fluffy duvet with Star Wars images on it. No privileges. If more than one offence committed, sentences to run consecutively and not concurrently as at present. Then, once the prisoner begins to follow the rules, privileges are gradually introduced. Any reversion to disregarding the rules means having privileges removed. Once their behaviour reaches a certain level, the re-introduction to society process begins. I knew quite a few soldiers and chairman in my military days, who experienced military prisons and I never met one who would risk going back there.<br />One of the major problems in today's prisons is the forced organisation on non Muslims, assaults and beatings given to those who refuse. The answer is simple. Any Muslim sent to prison goes to a specific place (HMP Mecca has a nice ring to it). With no fraternisation, or conflict, with other religions, this particular problem should go away. Paedophiles and wife beaters could also be sent there as they would fit right in.<br />Just saying.Penseivathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12891041602104672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-25283893555970738092019-06-13T08:25:45.249+01:002019-06-13T08:25:45.249+01:00more civilized they scream it, the great and the g...more civilized they scream it, the great and the good, multkult is good and moral relativism means there is no sin, unless you go against the received wisdom and then hell and all fury will be unleashed upon you.<br /><br />Britain is, an open sewer and slave prison, where life is cheap and humanity has disappeared.<br /><br />cultural Marxism, communism, socialism call it what you will, its basal instinct to reduce mankind to the level of the beasts, ask Stalin, ask Pol Pot, ask corbin man, ask junckyard and selmayr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-33657084174134805342019-06-13T07:20:58.434+01:002019-06-13T07:20:58.434+01:00Agree there should be prison reform. Bullying and ...Agree there should be prison reform. Bullying and buggering by fellow inmates are not part of judicial sentencing. Also need education and mental health assessment / treatment. <br /><br />And changes to Legal Aid so everyone gets a fair trial and the innocent don't get stuffed with legal fees. According to The Secret Barrister the cost would be a penny on a pint of beer.<br /><br />Tell us more about Austrian serfs!Sackersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284329249862764601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-10564709618759983222019-06-13T06:53:26.516+01:002019-06-13T06:53:26.516+01:00I advocate 'sentence doubling' where for e...<br />I advocate 'sentence doubling' where for each conviction the accused must serve DOUBLE any prior sentence - with no restriction, limit or challenge.<br /><br />This method of sentencing would serve to both punish and 'educate' the criminal to their ways with the prospect of ever more severe punishment regardless of the level of offense. Less harsh than the 'three strikes and you're out' method but with a well defined outcome for those that persist in offending.<br /><br />Whilst we have a right of duty to support and assist those who start a life of criminality towards a more civilised outcome there remain some whose detention serve the public good regardless of any imposition on their own freedom. I suspect the public would have no concern for such criminals and not baulk at the cost of permanent incarceration for there really, truly is a case for 'no hope' despite the wailings of the 'good intention' brigade.<br /><br />There are limits to everything - especially patience.Dave_Gnoreply@blogger.com