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Thursday, 4 September 2014

Is it time to outlaw aid to economic migrants?

The recent events in Calais, when a mob of economic migrants attempted to storm a ferry, brings into sharp highlight the continuing attraction of the UK for the world's poor. Given that government is doing what it can to deny public-funded subsistence and services, what is the attraction? The answer I think is the massive charitable and third-sector support network for economic migrants, bolstered by sympathetic rebels in the NHS and social housing sector who are prepared to defy government initiatives to cut-off the prizes. 

The Refugee Council boasts of 'supporting and empowering refugees' and offers services and links including 'support in accessing the NHS services' and an 84-page Legal and Asylum Support Services directory;

Refugee Action is campaigning to raise the daily asylum allowance from its current £5.23

Asylum Help offers multilingual support in Farsi, Somali, Amharic, Mandarin, Vietnamese, Pushto, Bengali, Punjabi, Arabic, Urdu and Albanian 

There are scores, hundreds, of others. 

Whilst there are true refugees to whom I am happy to offer a temporary home - Christians from Syria, Iraq and Egypt, for example - many of these third sector organisations are geared to helping economic migrants rather than refugees from violence or genocide. The mobs in Calais are economic migrants. 

So the question is, should we now penalise groups and organisations assisting economic migrants? Stripping away charitable status, imposing swingeing fines on Housing Associations, striking off doctors and nurses from their professional registers and immediate dismissal for misconduct for anyone else in the public sector knowingly misusing public funds for economic migrants?  


Anonymous said...

It's way past time that we stopped any more migrants, economic or otherwise. It's already clear that this country cannot cope with the "multiculturism" foisted upon us by previous governments.
Some time ago, during the migrants clinging to channel tunnel trains issue, there was a British Army officer who was asked, on TV, how to solve the problem. He gave the only honest answer: 100 men, live ammunition they'll stop coming after the first couple of trains. Probably need more than 100 men nowadays, coz no doubt the bleeding heart and loonie lefties would all turn up to stand in the way.

G. Tingey said...

How does one distinguish?
Good idea, but very very difficult in the execution I would think.

Anonymous is a shit.
religious/political refugees have benefited this country enormously.
Think Huguenot (my lot) the jews fleeing Tsarist persecution & the "Ugandan Asians" all of whom brought hard-working, intelligent people to these shores, to everyone's benefit.
However, an purely economic sponger is another matter - but how do you tell which is which?

Rush is Right said...

As Enoch Powell pointed out many years ago, immigration is a question of numbers. Of course a space can be found for small numbers of people fleeing oppression. But the numbers assembled at Calais go way beyond any theoretical obligation of hospitality. They, and the numbers already admitted here, represent a threat to the nation state itself.

OneMoreRainyDay said...

Stop giving government money to charities for a start - ANY charity. If people want to give then let them give personally.

Anonymous said...

Another question: How do these people get from, I presume the Mediterranean coast of France to the North tip near Calias without French authorities apprehending them and returning them to their country of Origin?

Or is this just another benefit of the European Union?

Anonymous said...

G Tingey: "Think Huguenot (my lot) the jews fleeing Tsarist persecution "

Many times fewer, probably many times more educated and as you said, hardworking.

I guarentee you not one Huguenot thought he was going to sign onto UK Welfare.

90% of these lot probably do.

And if they are organising and attempting to force entry, that radically changes the situation.

Budgie said...

It is totally irrelevant how intelligent immigrants may be to the issue of controlling their numbers.

Of course there are huge numbers of intelligent foreigners, some of them well educated too. It is grossly arrogant to suppose otherwise. But that does not mean that we should let them in solely because of it.

Great Britain is an island for the British. "We" got here first, after the retreat of the ice sheets 10,000 years ago. According to research about 70% of our dna is from that era - even the Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans and Huguenots have contributed relatively little each.

Now either we defend out homeland or we don't. If we don't, we and our culture with our hand-wringing, we-are-guilty world view, will be eliminated, replaced by something that is more robust. Or we start to believe in ourselves again. It's that simple.

Anonymous said...

Yes.If they used violence to gain entry, we are entitled to gun them down. They are mainly young men, they don't have to die - just send them back without genitals. That'll stop them breeding like rats, and make the country less attractive.

Morounfiyinfoluwa said...

I moved to the UK 10 years ago. Originally Nigerian.
Love it here.
This blog is one of my daily reads so perhaps that gives an indication of my political leaning.

I can never understand why British people are so down on their country.
I promise you, the UK really is a great country to live in.
Forget any charities or whatever you might think is out there - the answer is as simply as the UK being a far far far far (for emphasis) better place to live than many other countries out there.
What you propose in this post will change absolutely nothing.

But dont take my word for it...

Budgie said...

Anon 16:45, there is no need for such an extreme and disproportionate response. We can be robust without being thugs. We just need control of our borders back, which means exiting the EU. Then we can welcome or exclude who we want.

Budgie said...

Morounfiyinfoluwa said: "I can never understand why British people are so down on their country."

It's a national pastime.

Thud said...

no more immigrants for 10 years to give us time to sort out the problems we have now.

Anonymous said...

Ah, I don't like it when you get rhetorical Raedwald and the answer is yes the public money hose should be cut off to all of these social engineering leftist twats.

DeeDee99 said...

There certainly need to be some robust changes to the law, including the Human Rights Act.

But the Government isn't going to do what is necessary: it doesn't want to and hasn't the guts.

They don't even deport illegals just off the boat, when they find them.

Wildgoose said...

I personally think that replacing our Welfare System with a Citizen's Allowance that is only payable to native-born[*] citizens would solve this problem, but every little helps!

[*]Actually I would only apply that rule after about 1998, when Mandelson says the Labour Party sent out "search parties" for immigrants with which to undermine our social fabric and provide voter fodder for the Labour Party.

Weekend Yachtsman said...

@Anon 10:41 - Indeed.

My ancestors were East End Huguenots as well. They didn't come here for freebies, they came to practice their trades.

As most of the people causing problems are NOT EU citizens, I don't know of any reason why we have to provide them benefits at all, or at least not until they've got a couple of years of certifiable taxpaying under their belts. If they've come here to work, why would they object to that?

But no doubt the Human Rights Act would see it differently.

Or we could just let the mayor of Calais blockade the place. That would help, would it not?

G. Tingey said...

The Huguenots were the largest single "dose" of immigrants this country has ever seen - the equivalent, now of about 1.8 million people, all turning up in about a month (October-November 1985, incidentally )