tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post1716903728286056790..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: Prime Minister emerges from under his bushelRaedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-2008143127250363652020-02-04T18:44:38.969+00:002020-02-04T18:44:38.969+00:00Anonymous JPM said...
"I would rather be dead...<br />Anonymous JPM said...<br />"I would rather be dead in a ditch than not leave the EU on October 31st" etc. etc. etc. - Alexander Johnson.<br /><br /><br />3 February 2020 at 17:07<br />==============================<br /><br />Boring for England again I see. It was not Johnson's fault we didn't leave then, rather the establishment who were hell bent on stopping Brexit, or in May's case, making any exit meaningless - BRINO.<br /><br />What's your point in posting that? Apart from confirming your status as a barrel-scraping trollElby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-81814077553648804592020-02-04T18:05:52.255+00:002020-02-04T18:05:52.255+00:00All very good. Sadly, irrelevant, as BJ's insa...All very good. Sadly, irrelevant, as BJ's insane NetZero and electic car and taking out gas boilers will reduce the economy to rubble. <br /><br />Never mind eh?Elby the Beserkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060519682739666145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-30651478138725990032020-02-04T17:18:39.775+00:002020-02-04T17:18:39.775+00:00I used to consider "Cheesy" comical. Now...I used to consider "Cheesy" comical. Now just a sour, pathetic individual with the status I reserve for those I consider a waste of human skin. Do take a break. Come back when we have rejoined the EUSSR. I expect to be long gone from this mortal coil by then. Albeit heavily replaced, I suspect by those much younger than I. Ergo loathers of the EUSSR, lovers of Europe.Oldrightiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06543827315658405090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-80367670135829735982020-02-04T17:04:19.238+00:002020-02-04T17:04:19.238+00:00I doubt if associate membership is ever seriously ...I doubt if associate membership is ever seriously proposed, that take up rates for uk citizens would account for more than 1% of the population.<br /><br />Which is fitting. As it is the 1% who are most in favour of it.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-31810940802688235602020-02-04T16:39:34.445+00:002020-02-04T16:39:34.445+00:00JPMs 'movement in broad circles' therefore...<br />JPMs 'movement in broad circles' therefore includes a large percentage of minors - according to his distribution of people who didn't vote leave....Dave_Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-90505356945999687022020-02-04T16:07:37.436+00:002020-02-04T16:07:37.436+00:00I liked the Johnson speech but find the government...I liked the Johnson speech but find the government's pronouncements on petrol cars and other green issues somewhat disconcerting. <br />M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-80400231836642947552020-02-04T15:43:42.011+00:002020-02-04T15:43:42.011+00:00@JPM
Using your bizarre calculations if 50 milli...@JPM <br /><br />Using your bizarre calculations if 50 million did not vote Leave then 51 million did not vote Remain.DiscoveredJoyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05300239909689336895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-9154576801455179562020-02-04T14:56:30.708+00:002020-02-04T14:56:30.708+00:00The fifty two percent is of those who voted in the...The fifty two percent is of those who voted in the referendum old boy, which translates to just twenty-six percent of the population.<br /><br />That fifty million of us who did not vote Leave provides plenty of company, and as I said, most Leave voters are not like the fixated fantasists who frequent these threads anyway.<br /><br />The ones in the village local generally fall into the sentimental nostalgic bracket, and are rather charming.<br /><br />So we're going nowhere.JPMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-56610876010301424632020-02-04T12:53:51.525+00:002020-02-04T12:53:51.525+00:00So your 'broad circles' by your own admiss...So your 'broad circles' by your own admission don't generally include the 52% - Are you sure you don't work for the BBC?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14296302606557152404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-16248155362274589382020-02-04T12:26:14.753+00:002020-02-04T12:26:14.753+00:00I'm not in any way campaigning for the UK to r...I'm not in any way campaigning for the UK to rejoin the European Union, because without fundamental constitutional change, along with much else, its presence would continue to be as damaging to the project as it has been for much of its membership.<br /><br />In the broad circles in which I move, most people whom I meet are not Leave voters, however, and those whom I do meet are generally reasonable, moderate people, not silly obsessives.<br /><br /> JPMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-39148740323888867402020-02-04T11:40:30.967+00:002020-02-04T11:40:30.967+00:00Nicely stated Andrew.
JPM, the demographics of th...Nicely stated Andrew.<br /><br />JPM, the demographics of the Dec 2019 match - almost exactly - that of the referendum: youth and younger age groups voted for Corbyn. Think about that for a minute or two. Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-46607183864828709242020-02-04T11:18:37.580+00:002020-02-04T11:18:37.580+00:00It’s time to scotch JPM's call to demographics...It’s time to scotch JPM's call to demographics as proof that Remain will ultimately win.<br /><br />1. As people get older they value pragmatism over idealism, ie become more conservatism. The ranks of patriots lost to death are constantly replenished by people growing up. <br /><br />2. It’s no longer about Remaining, but Rejoining. A much harder argument, as what we would be rejoining would have moved away from us, and presumably on worse terms. <br /><br />3. All the evidence (including the Remain campaign) suggests that support for the EU was at best tepid, and relied upon not risking the benefits of the status quo. Well the status quo has changed now. Get used to it. <br /><br />4. With a massive reduction in EU derived immigration, the votes won’t be swinging in a rejoinerly direction. <br /><br />Andrew Douglasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-83669080743280545052020-02-04T10:12:26.733+00:002020-02-04T10:12:26.733+00:00If the EU is all it is claimed to be (by some) the...<br />If the EU is all it is claimed to be (by some) then support for it would be upwards of 65%.... Real life suggests otherwise (50/50 at best, some report under 50% support) but we'll never really know as the EU eschews voting and would make people vote again if they lost since 'people don't understand the question'.<br /><br />The EU is in a Leave/Reamin situation with the Remain side refusing to acknowledge the problems their own policies are creating - witness the pan-EU protests. <br /><br />It's this disconnect from reality that will bring the EU down as sticking ones head in the sand is not a 'solution'. Nor is 'more of the same'.<br /><br />People like JPM will be the cause of the EUs demise, not the saviours of it. <br /><br />I think JPM has a 'Clinton comlex' - refusal to accept facts. And is likely as maniacal as her too... Dave_Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-71704748924463228222020-02-04T08:46:39.289+00:002020-02-04T08:46:39.289+00:00It's just facts. Look at the demographic of th...It's just facts. Look at the demographic of the votes, anon.<br /><br />There aren't new generations of people schooled with pre war geography books, where a large part of the world was pink, coming along to replace those who turn up their toes either.<br /><br />And thanks for supporting my earlier suggestion as to the real reason for much of the Leave vote.<br /><br />It's good though, that the European Union is in effect offering a Two State Solution to this hopelessly divided country, with its Associate Citizenship proposal - can't wait.JPMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-38935916701474146522020-02-04T08:27:03.205+00:002020-02-04T08:27:03.205+00:00Remainers don't die apparently. Must be some ...Remainers don't die apparently. Must be some magic elixir that supporting the EU provides.<br />It's sneering like this that galvanised the Leave campaign. Keep going old chap. <br />JadedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-3393517391051693972020-02-04T08:20:50.236+00:002020-02-04T08:20:50.236+00:00Anon, why?
There are far more of us than there ar...Anon, why?<br /><br />There are far more of us than there are of the fanatics such as haunt these sites.<br /><br />Given the demographic, their numbers dwindle ever more rapidly too.<br /><br />I don't hang around the the BetFreds of Batley or of Basildon anyway, so I hardly see them anyway.JPMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-21220584720778643622020-02-04T00:35:46.934+00:002020-02-04T00:35:46.934+00:00Goodbye Gibraltar
#162
https://ec.europa.eu/info...Goodbye Gibraltar<br /><br />#162<br /><br />https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication-annex-negotiating-directives.pdf<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-66460492349273169422020-02-04T00:26:43.404+00:002020-02-04T00:26:43.404+00:00He’s saying all the right things. It was an excell...He’s saying all the right things. It was an excellent speech. It remains to be seen if he can deliver I wish him luck.Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254163054362676487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-37178473566863090482020-02-03T23:34:45.931+00:002020-02-03T23:34:45.931+00:00A very good speech by our PM and I particularly li...A very good speech by our PM and I particularly liked the way he called the EU’s bluff on insisting upon a level playing field in order for the UK to obtain an FTA by showing how the UK’s standards are better than the EU’s and how the UK has a much better record on such issues as state subsidies than other major EU countries.<br /><br />He omitted to mention that the corporation tax rate for many EU countries is well below that of the UK.<br />John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368536835090304923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-22351280076200641582020-02-03T23:21:51.736+00:002020-02-03T23:21:51.736+00:00JPM 17:40, I am guessing from you idiotic pap that...JPM 17:40, I am guessing from you idiotic pap that you are still crying over the 'lies' on the bus as well.Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-66022407626519150872020-02-03T23:19:51.926+00:002020-02-03T23:19:51.926+00:00yes, very good, almost starting to have hope that ...yes, very good, almost starting to have hope that he will pull it all off...this sort of real - backed by facts - optimistism has been missing for years. <br /><br />I posted on this as well and I think it worth listening to the questions as well. He doesn't let any of them 'ruin the moment' although at least three tried to. He also made clear - in answers to questions re terrorisim stabbings etc - he would stop the absolutely ridiculous automatic early release. Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-74639555050684251692020-02-03T22:07:38.684+00:002020-02-03T22:07:38.684+00:00JPM. You still here?
I thought you’d have left fo...JPM. You still here?<br /><br />I thought you’d have left for France by now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-65036010275913280852020-02-03T17:58:15.478+00:002020-02-03T17:58:15.478+00:00Good speech; clearly setting out what our objectiv...Good speech; clearly setting out what our objectives are both to the EU and the wider world. <br /><br />However, Free Trade mustn't mean that the likes of China are able to continue dumping their heavily subsidised steel on us. Some industries must be protected - in our national interest.DeeDee99https://www.blogger.com/profile/06753473473887381622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-28943218576172403622020-02-03T17:40:19.643+00:002020-02-03T17:40:19.643+00:00So why isn't he in that ditch, even metaphoric...So why isn't he in that ditch, even metaphorically?<br /><br />Because, like Trump, he is a compulsive liar.<br /><br />Isn't he?JPMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-75263648116315173532020-02-03T17:29:27.749+00:002020-02-03T17:29:27.749+00:00@JPM
"I would rather be dead in a ditch than...@JPM<br /><br />"I would rather be dead in a ditch than not leave the EU on October 31st" etc. etc. etc. - Alexander Johnson.<br /><br />...and had it not been for the sabotage of the Remainers in Parliament we would have been.DiscoveredJoyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05300239909689336895noreply@blogger.com