tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post4504083321971415546..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: Referendum II - We Will Win Again!Raedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-51418005052115008502019-03-29T03:28:55.344+00:002019-03-29T03:28:55.344+00:00Rapscallion 19:05
I think Jack is a good bean at ...Rapscallion 19:05<br /><br />I think Jack is a good bean at heart, he just needs to be told by a politician with contract in hand that he has a right to live. As an Englishman I know I have that right, and to breathe and marry and do what I wish as long as I don't break any laws. pity those poor Europeans that need to have such natural rights granted by a written document. How great must those elite politicians must be; I hear they will also maintain global climate temperature rises below 2 degrees C, such Gods that live amongst us!Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-69115149426861020322019-03-29T03:21:52.359+00:002019-03-29T03:21:52.359+00:00Can anyone confirm whether no deal will still not ...Can anyone confirm whether no deal will still not happen? despite all the 'votes' and shenanigans has anybody actually ruled out "no deal" (yes it isn't really 'no deal')<br /><br />As far as I can see it will still happen...Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-27328100921318365112019-03-28T20:24:28.989+00:002019-03-28T20:24:28.989+00:00has been so long in the making (since 1215) Rapsca...<i>has been so long in the making (since 1215)</i> Rapscallion<br /><br />You think the Manga Carta was the start of our 'written constitution' ?That is a common misconception but demonstrably wrong. Not your fault of course, I don't suppose a Quran school education covered the finer points of our constitutional history.jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-91906010941547586732019-03-28T19:05:48.015+00:002019-03-28T19:05:48.015+00:00@Jack Ketch - aka traitorous scumbag
We DO have a...@Jack Ketch - aka traitorous scumbag<br /><br />We DO have a constitution you cretin, it's just that our "constitution" has been so long in the making (since 1215), that it actually isn't neatly contained inside ONE document. It resides in many Acts of Parliament, Like Acts of Succession and Acts of Union as well as the crowning glory of the 1689 Bill or Rights. It is the latter that forms the very basis of the US constitution, but you wouldn't know that because you're an idiot. It is ink on paper or vellum, but it IS written.rapscallionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-54949884800158572442019-03-28T14:34:22.478+00:002019-03-28T14:34:22.478+00:00Raedwald - I have seen comments on some sites (not...Raedwald - I have seen comments on some sites (not this one from memory (or rather lack of it)<br /><br />But the word is being put round that a spoiled vote figure is no longer given at the count - a cabal trying to take the sting out of any "Spoil your vote" campaign.<br /><br /><br />Just for everyone's information I have just had it confirmed by the Electoral Commission that it continues to be the rule that the Returning Officer at each count must give a spoiled vote figurePlantmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-67659288776949077692019-03-28T13:20:23.458+00:002019-03-28T13:20:23.458+00:00Hi Val - he hasn't got a site as yet, but we&#...Hi Val - he hasn't got a site as yet, but we'll keep watching closelyRaedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-3772781135123732522019-03-28T12:14:55.849+00:002019-03-28T12:14:55.849+00:00Where can I sign up?Where can I sign up?Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316789853532734945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-50497412937203254832019-03-28T08:16:40.509+00:002019-03-28T08:16:40.509+00:00We "won" 17 years ago, when Lord Justice...We "won" 17 years ago, when Lord Justice Laws ruled that Parliament is sovereign and cannot abandon its sovereignty. His analysis of the status of "constitutional instruments" like ECA 1972 has since been upheld by the Supreme Court with reference to other case law, I understand.<br /><br />If we do not detach ourselves from the EU now we can do so on another occasion... and try again and again. Be of good cheer.<br /><br />Of course I think we should do so now, because of certain financial and military threats on the EU's horizon and because of its essentially undemocratic nature; and also because it will free our hands to face other difficulties such as what may well be an imminent global depression.<br /><br />The fight will never finish, as far as I am concerned, until we succeed; and even that will only be the start, since we also have to reform our British political system.<br /><br />https://theylaughedatnoah.blogspot.com/2019/03/brexit-we-never-lost-our-sovereignty.htmlSackersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284329249862764601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-6917553606853674942019-03-27T19:33:29.611+00:002019-03-27T19:33:29.611+00:00(perhaps Ketchy - who seems to be our resident exp...<i><br />(perhaps Ketchy - who seems to be our resident expert on all things German will enlighten us from his profound knowledge with the German equivalent - if it exists)</i>-Planty<br /><br />Not sure it does, nor indeed if I am, but off the top of my head I suppose the heinous crime of the dreaded Grocer's apostrophe might have some passing equivalence with misuse of 'tun' (pronounced 'toon') which is the verb 'to do' in German and uneducated Germans will often say things such as "I do shopping go" or "He no German speaking do ". <br /><br />Another pedants favourite would be the use of the dative case when a preposition should rightly take the genitive but that has almost become 'accepted' practice now. jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-20177009529895198162019-03-27T19:28:29.977+00:002019-03-27T19:28:29.977+00:00I'm 'all in' for the suggestion in the...<br />I'm 'all in' for the suggestion in the OP - there's absolutely no way that Government (ours or Europe's) - note, no Greengrocer apostrophe mistake ;) - should be allowed to subvert the public and that battle lines have been drawn (again).<br /><br />If the EU themselves want their own 5th column working from inside to destroy them then keeping the UK there is a good way to go about it.<br /><br />This puts them in a quandry - how do they let us go but make sure we 'suffer' as an example to other countries? Will the EU manage to do this themselves (by obstructing any business deals) or will they rely on Britains own 5th column - the mandarins - to make the necessary complications?<br /><br />Either way, the EU would be better off waving us goodbye and the incentive offered by Cummings' column is certainly a boost to my own personal hopes for a future free of dictators.Dave_Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-29329815907010821542019-03-27T19:18:27.337+00:002019-03-27T19:18:27.337+00:00Well, Flower Pot Man, since he repeated almost ver...Well, Flower Pot Man, since he repeated almost verbatim, some words of Guy Verhofstadt's used absolutely in that context, I'd say that that would be very much the sort of - sort of, note - thing to which Tusk alluded.<br /><br />It seems like the ideal solution, almost a Twin State one. Now, where have we seen that before?Cedric Pughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-17593419905088159932019-03-27T18:50:09.026+00:002019-03-27T18:50:09.026+00:00Raedwald @ 18.34
Please, please R think carefully...Raedwald @ 18.34<br /><br />Please, please R think carefully . That might be construed as an "ethnic hate crime" if as I suspect it's an English peculiarity. <br /><br />(perhaps Ketchy - who seems to be our resident expert on all things German will enlighten us from his profound knowledge with the German equivalent - if it exists)Plantmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-11104542894439969752019-03-27T18:43:07.736+00:002019-03-27T18:43:07.736+00:00Pugh @ 15.54
"That is the sort of thing that...Pugh @ 15.54<br /><br />"That is the sort of thing that Tusk meant"<br /><br />Pleased to see that you're keeping up the mind reading Cedric.<br /><br />The offer's still open!Plantmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-9305922693900967182019-03-27T18:34:46.938+00:002019-03-27T18:34:46.938+00:00ignore that greengrocer's apostrophe in the la...ignore that greengrocer's apostrophe in the last sentence.Raedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-51923379439635349832019-03-27T18:33:05.600+00:002019-03-27T18:33:05.600+00:002-Tried to force Europe onto Berlin time.
I think...2-Tried to force Europe onto Berlin time.<br /><br />I think they <i>have</i> forced Europe onto Berlin time - but it's been done twice before. Once by Hitler, resented deeply as a manifestation of Nazi power and rapidly abolished following Liberation. <br /><br />The second time was following the 1970s oil crisis - to save European nations billions in energy costs. To repeal it now, at a time when (a) the EU is about to go into deep recession and (b) the climate kiddies are holding EU wide protests about not reducing energy usage, is a particularly dumb move. <br /><br />It will mean greater costs and greater energy use throughout Europe. German manufacturer's, already reelng, must be feeling very grateful towards the idiots in Brussels. Raedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-31526456650435758522019-03-27T17:49:20.369+00:002019-03-27T17:49:20.369+00:00How would anyone know that they had applied, Mr Ec...How would anyone know that they had applied, Mr Ecks? And why? What harm would it do you? Surely the whole thing isn't all about spite? Maybe it is, for you?Cedric Pughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-41364402839390897502019-03-27T17:28:22.352+00:002019-03-27T17:28:22.352+00:00Including so I hope lots of remainiacs. Mr X
Very...<i>Including so I hope lots of remainiacs.</i> Mr X<br /><br />Very much so.jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-16824470956520908762019-03-27T17:15:43.768+00:002019-03-27T17:15:43.768+00:00Anyone applying for EU citizenship needs to be dep...<br />Anyone applying for EU citizenship needs to be deported over there sans their worldly goods.<br /><br />The EU is trying to help us tho'. Yesterday--in one day--they:<br /><br />1-Tried to take over the Inet and psissed off both the yoof and a lot of business folk. Including so I hope lots of remainiacs.<br />2-Tried to force Europe onto Berlin time.<br />3- Decreed new cars after--whenever 2025?--will have speed limiters and on board snopping devices.<br /><br />Short of going around in T-shirts say"Yes we are the tyrannical bastards you say we are" they could hardly be doing more to help the LEAVE cause.Mr Ecksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-76309947545342348782019-03-27T17:13:59.746+00:002019-03-27T17:13:59.746+00:00There are plenty of people living in Britain now w...There are plenty of people living in Britain now who have dual citizenship. It's only a problem when they pay a visit to the other country, get thrown into jail, and expect Britain to get them out.<br /><br />Don CoxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-62283371784509783512019-03-27T17:03:39.460+00:002019-03-27T17:03:39.460+00:00I admit DC's comments raised a smile and some ...I admit DC's comments raised a smile and some nods of agreement this morning when I read them, particularly this bit :<i>Those of you in the narcissist-delusional subset of the ERG who have spent the last three years scrambling for the 8.10 Today slot while spouting gibberish about trade and the law across SW1 – ie exactly the contemptible behaviour that led to your enforced marginalisation during the referendum and your attempt to destroy Vote Leave – you are also in the pirate category. You were useful idiots for remain during the campaign and with every piece of bullshit from Bill Cash et al you have helped only remain for three years. Remember how you WELCOMED the backstop as a ‘triumph’ in December 2017 when it was obvious to everybody who knew what was going on — NOT the cabinet obviously — that this effectively ended the ‘negotiations’? Remember how Bernard Jenkin wrote on ConHome that he didn’t have to ‘ruin his weekend’ reading the document to know it was another success for the natural party of government – bringing to mind very clearly how during the referendum so many of you guys were too busy shooting or skiing or chasing girls to do any actual work. You should be treated like a metastasising tumour and excised from the UK body politic.</i><br /><br />But as to the rest of what he said, someone badly needs to take him outside and beat him to death with a rolled up copy of our Constitution (if we had a written one).<br />jack ketchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921268825653615322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-86093643593908669772019-03-27T17:00:39.225+00:002019-03-27T17:00:39.225+00:00Well, Tusk was addressing the EU Parliament - over...Well, Tusk was addressing the EU Parliament - over tedious heckling from ukip - and not the UK Government or media.<br /><br />He makes a very good point. If Article Nine of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights has said "citizenship" and not "nationality", then the EU would be compelled to offer it. Maybe the international court will rule that it still must?<br /><br />It would mean, sensibly, that an independent Catalonia could not dictate that all its residents lost their Spanish nationality, for instance, and the position here has parallels.Cedric Pughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-22281298838799685842019-03-27T16:28:26.119+00:002019-03-27T16:28:26.119+00:00Cedric
Is that what Tusk actually meant?
Where t...Cedric<br /><br />Is that what Tusk actually meant?<br /><br />Where there are "Europeans" so there is "European" soil. Well we know what that sort of mindset led to 70 odd years ago don't we. You'd think a Pole would have more of an understanding of European history.<br /><br />It doesn't bother me in the slightest if they give EU "citizenship" to Venezuelans, North Koreans or whatever.<br /><br />He does realise that he would need to give multiple "citizenships", possibly hundreds to individuals remainiacs. Which is only fair I suppose as they are SO much more worthy.<br /><br />Or maybe it was a vote for each of their genders.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-2016718160218036382019-03-27T16:27:35.745+00:002019-03-27T16:27:35.745+00:00Puke.
Nobody here is going to stop anybody from do...Puke.<br />Nobody here is going to stop anybody from doing anything. How could they?<br />Why do you continue with such bone questioning?mikebravonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-41831453037696120382019-03-27T16:12:23.467+00:002019-03-27T16:12:23.467+00:00Just seen Tallbloke’s analysis. He’s been on the L...Just seen Tallbloke’s analysis. He’s been on the Leave march. This is an extract:<br /><br />15. All these other options, except revoking A50, are ONLY available AFTER the WA is signed. (Ask the EU – but this is the case)<br />16. So, if WA is dead, and it is, the whole indicative votes farrago is pointless. They have already all been proposed and rejected as amendments anyway.<br />17. Therefore we have either WTO or Revoke A50.<br /><br />He said this to ITN the other day. The rest is here.<br /><br />https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2019/03/24/the-long-march-to-brexit-current-analysis/#more-41683<br />Rossahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04038665955603179495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-45890295661053072842019-03-27T15:54:03.857+00:002019-03-27T15:54:03.857+00:00So what are you going to do, to prevent the EU fro...So what are you going to do, to prevent the EU from offering continued, conditional, EU citizenship to UK nationals who want it, direct to them, personally? That is the sort of thing that Tusk meant.<br /><br />And why would you anyway? Why should it bother you?Cedric Pughnoreply@blogger.com