tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post5155866365928162150..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: Demonstrations don't count half as much as votesRaedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-28342485145187939652017-03-28T20:01:52.373+01:002017-03-28T20:01:52.373+01:00"Yes", as I emailed Lord Bragg, a Remain..."Yes", as I emailed Lord Bragg, a Remainer and presenter of the R4 programme "In our Time" after the first Lord's EU Exit Bill amendments votes :<br /><br /><br />"Lord Bragg<br />In our Time<br />16/03/2017<br /><br />A possible subject for a programme would be how Henry VIII used the royal prerogative powers to break from Rome and the Papacy and how this led eventually to the age of reason and scientific methods, a global trading empire and the Industrial Revolution.<br /><br />This was despite Henry VIII essentially remaining a catholic himself, despite the country being told that it would suffer dire consequences culminating in the Spanish Armada and despite attempts by remainers, such as Bloody Mary and Guy Fawkes, to keep the country catholic and under the control of Rome."<br /><br />I see that Ms Sturgeon is becoming Mary Queen of Scots, Tim Farron Guy Fawkes and Anna Soubry Bloody Mary.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368536835090304923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-16332881928442156812017-03-28T10:43:25.114+01:002017-03-28T10:43:25.114+01:00I too attended both Countryside Marches. They achi...I too attended both Countryside Marches. They achieved nothing. The "secret ballot" achieves remarkably little too, under our system weighted in favour of the status quo - a permanent duopoly of Lab/Con who take it in turns then get together in one of Westminster's many bars for a few laughs over taxpayer-subsidised booze. Me, cynical? After voting UKIP since the late '90s I might just about have given up, to concentrate on my personal interests and do my best to forget about politics. And Radders's "new people's party" is fine, sure - but it's been tried, and can't work for the reason I just gave.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12561695938174979338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-26268111712609879142017-03-28T10:16:30.773+01:002017-03-28T10:16:30.773+01:00"... our Article 50 letter is good to go ...&..."... our Article 50 letter is good to go ..."<br /><br />Yes, 9 months on. No wonder Theresa May never had children - it's meant to be 9 months pregnancy, not 9 months foreplay.<br /><br />You think Article 50 has already caused trouble? Wait until you see what the EU can do to us because of it. Even Mrs May can see some of it, when she says that no deal is better than a bad deal.<br /><br />If the EU are so blind and truculent they wouldn't give Cameron a deal he could sell to us, then the EU is sure not going to give May a good deal now. The net result is we've just lost 9 months for no reason.<br /><br />Article 50 should have been recognised as the trap it is by all eurosceptics, not just a few of us. Then it may have been possible to influence the PTB to actually <i>take control</i> of any negotiations, rather than being purely reactive. We will end up in the same place but it will take 3 times longer and will be much more messy, and will leave us weaker.Budgienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-28603580209925026722017-03-28T08:08:57.363+01:002017-03-28T08:08:57.363+01:00As Jonathan Pie aptly puts it in his excellent ran...As Jonathan Pie aptly puts it in his excellent rant on why Brexit and Trump happened, he states that labelling people as racist or homophobic or stupid is hardly ever going to win them over and hurling insults at them won't endear them to the cause either. As a career technology salesman, I cannot think of a single customer that I won over by calling them stupid for not buying my products or solutions. The Illiberal elitists need to go home and think again! Poisonedchalicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877122279794559618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-89271402156865504592017-03-28T08:07:29.674+01:002017-03-28T08:07:29.674+01:00DeeDee99 has it: Mason the Marxist is a shady extr...DeeDee99 has it: Mason the Marxist is a shady extremist. <br /><br />Re Countryside March, yes, a great day that everyone - including police - tried to make out was 3 or 4 hundred thousand. I have been in enough football and rugby matches to know they got those numbers were very badly (intentionally?) underestimated.<br /><br />There was wide column of people covering almost the entire route for several hours...I'd say far more than the Iraq war protest, which was a million or so (OK...according to 'official figures'!)Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-37398139947590243102017-03-28T07:45:07.946+01:002017-03-28T07:45:07.946+01:00As a Marxist, Mason has no respect for democracy; ...As a Marxist, Mason has no respect for democracy; he believes that only a popular revolution will create a fair society. He's a nasty, left-wing extremist, rabble-rouser who is given far too much opportunity in our media to spout his divisive drivel.<br /><br />DeeDee99https://www.blogger.com/profile/06753473473887381622noreply@blogger.com