tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post8844110684550489821..comments2023-09-28T13:28:52.243+01:00Comments on Raedwald: Light dawns on the Political ClassRaedwaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-26247388952168223652019-05-20T23:06:54.804+01:002019-05-20T23:06:54.804+01:00Replacement? Not necessary. Ah, that veto thing......Replacement? Not necessary. Ah, that veto thing...how long?Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-15314534114648062102019-05-20T21:34:37.214+01:002019-05-20T21:34:37.214+01:00Yes, with a replacement for the Lisbon Treaty it c...Yes, with a replacement for the Lisbon Treaty it could do those things, but how many member countries - every one of which would have a veto - would want that?Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-30607990217490866812019-05-20T17:28:52.759+01:002019-05-20T17:28:52.759+01:00The EU does not *YET* legislate on:
Crime and puni...The EU does not *YET* legislate on:<br />Crime and punishment.<br />Family and Divorce.<br />Land, property, and inheritance.<br />Traffic and parking regulations.<br />Town and country planning.<br />Professional standards in medicine, law, etc.<br />Public administration.<br />Electoral matters.<br />Legislative procedures and constitutional matters, parliamentary standards.<br />Media regulation.<br />Trade unions and employment law, except for H&S.<br />General contract law.<br />Health and education provision.<br />Regulation of privatised utilities etc., except where goods/services offered fall under Single Market rules.<br /><br />There fixed it for youRACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-48234563548254147202019-05-20T16:29:32.583+01:002019-05-20T16:29:32.583+01:00But Cheerful Edward,
If as you state the EU make...But Cheerful Edward, <br /><br />If as you state the EU makes so few laws and affects such a small proportion of our lives, why is it that Brenda the hairdresser on the high street has to use EU-certified electrical equipment? Why does the EU get involved in the wattage of the vacuum cleaner she uses to hoover up the hair on the salon floor? Why has the EU legislated the wattage and type of the bulbs she uses to light her salon? She doesn't trade with the EU, so why does have to comply with EU directives?<br />Why does Kathy in the café next door have to comply with EU directives on food hygiene? She's not exporting cake and coffee to the EU, so why does the EU impinge on her business so much, adding costs?<br />The list goes on... in every business you will find EU legislation. Don't like it? Tough, you have no recourse. Vote for a different representative? they don't make the law, only the unelected EU Commission does that. Get your MEP to block legislation? Good luck with that, they can only suggest modifications and they are but one amongst hundreds that will pass the legislation.<br />Mark The Skint Sailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04892877003107509621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-78270227871169143272019-05-20T16:04:06.390+01:002019-05-20T16:04:06.390+01:00The only material, independent power that the EU C...The only material, independent power that the EU Commissioners have is to issue directives, in accordance with the laws to which they relate, passed by both the EU Parliament and by the Council. If you look at most UK Acts, they have clauses such as "Ministers may make rules" which is much the same thing.<br /><br />You can't vote for or out out any of the UK Law Commissioners, the judiciary, the HoL, the Head Of State, or as for its office-holder, the PM either directly, plus many more powerful positions, such as SG of NATO. And the EU Commissioners only operate within the limited remit of the Treaties.<br /><br />You're making a load of silly fuss about very little, but that is exactly, upon what this whole EU-phobia thing is based.Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-82107452283536879992019-05-20T14:38:47.455+01:002019-05-20T14:38:47.455+01:00A point to mention to Cheesy It's a decade sin...A point to mention to Cheesy It's a decade since Dim McBruin sold our gold at two prices The 1st low and the second lower when he announced his intention, just after the 1st auction to sell more. I have wanted to know why for 10 years and why he was allowed to retire on full pension after such a gaff. (actually even worse he snuck in like Maybot to become PM!)leilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09306152717670389251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-82929162690313280882019-05-20T11:20:20.569+01:002019-05-20T11:20:20.569+01:00Misery Ed...that white fluffy stuff you see is clo...Misery Ed...that white fluffy stuff you see is clouds, that birdsong you hear is a cuckoo.Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-56678444074340877332019-05-20T10:12:40.112+01:002019-05-20T10:12:40.112+01:00Tony Benn's son, Hilary, would appear to be sa...Tony Benn's son, Hilary, would appear to be satisfied that his father's concerns have been addressed, wouldn't he?<br /><br />As for those five questions to the EU Commissioners, since the answer to first is "very little" and then "from the EU Parliament" the rest become moot, don't they?Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-34777082994026609982019-05-20T09:28:40.882+01:002019-05-20T09:28:40.882+01:00Several thoughts (with apologies to Raedwald for i...Several thoughts (with apologies to Raedwald for its length)<br /><br />@Cheesy Ed - how much of the European people's taxes has been wasted on propagandising for the EU? <br /><br />@RAC - brilliant point: make MPs subject to conditions such as Short Term Contracts - just like many of the electorate. Let them feel and fear the real world.<br /><br />On Tony Benn - his arguments on democracy are more relevant than ever: trace back any small NGO that claims to be caring about our ‘liberties’ or ‘rights’ and there is an almost inevitability that those NGOs will be affiliated to, or financed by a big NGO with the word ‘Open’ attached to their title - and the financing will be supplied by a well know currency speculator.<br /><br />For me, one of my favourite Twitter commenters has summed up how I feel.<br /><br />A certain Sam Hooper, in a blog post, has made the point (and I just take out the relevant bit) “…that Brexit – in all its halting, stop-start awkwardness – is the first significant attempt by any country to answer the question of how a modern nation state can reconcile the technocratic demands of global trade with the need to preserve meaningful democracy.”<br /><br />This last point is exactly what our politicians should be addressing: instead they are posturing and protecting their own positions.<br /><br />The People are right - again!<br />wgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-83480115586670543242019-05-20T09:04:58.101+01:002019-05-20T09:04:58.101+01:00I agree with Don Cox above that a party list syste...I agree with Don Cox above that a party list system (viz pure proportional representation (PPR)) is the very worst possible way to elect our representatives in Parliament as the elected will have no care at all for their constituency but only for party allegiance.<br /><br />I believe a better system than either FPTP or PPR is AV (Alternative Vote) as it combines proportional representation with the benefits (in my opinion) of a single MP representing a specific constituency (as in FPTP).<br /><br />It enables voters to vote for whom they really want, so that their real preference is recorded, followed by voting if necessary for the least worst option (as in FPTP in many cases).<br /><br />The winning candidate has always over 50% of the votes cast, far more democratic than the FPTP system.<br /><br />It also stops the ridiculous scenario where a constituency does not get the representation they want through vote splitting.<br /><br />It is a shame we did not vote for it when we had the chance.<br />John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368536835090304923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-73082681464756833302019-05-20T08:53:45.514+01:002019-05-20T08:53:45.514+01:00I've always thought that asking Benn's 5 q...I've always thought that asking Benn's 5 questions of the EU reveals the paucity of the leavers' position. Indeed, I voted leave mainly because I cannot vote the EU commissioners out. There's just no democracy there.Dadad1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-17441364858284581372019-05-20T08:18:10.061+01:002019-05-20T08:18:10.061+01:00Anon:
"Time to revive Tony Benn's 5 ques...Anon:<br /><br />"Time to revive Tony Benn's 5 questions to powerful people"<br /><br />Yes, and in the context of campaigning power (money, that is), let's ask exactly those of Farage eh?<br /><br />What power - money - have you got?<br />Where did you get it from?... we can only guess<br />In whose interests do you exercise it?...ditto<br />To whom are you accountable?...ditto<br />And how can we get rid of you?...that's up to the UK popular, US-owned media, not us.Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-9600617899436098142019-05-20T07:31:23.422+01:002019-05-20T07:31:23.422+01:00Mandelson told us this over a decade ago when he s...Mandelson told us this over a decade ago when he said that we are now in the post-democratic world.<br /><br />DeeDee99https://www.blogger.com/profile/06753473473887381622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-66563342979097364232019-05-19T19:15:41.327+01:002019-05-19T19:15:41.327+01:00Time to revive Tony Benn's 5 questions to powe...Time to revive Tony Benn's 5 questions to powerful people:<br /><br />What power have you got?<br />Where did you get it from?<br />In whose interests do you exercise it?<br />To whom are you accountable?<br />And how can we get rid of you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-77649917272400100732019-05-19T18:57:08.100+01:002019-05-19T18:57:08.100+01:00"Have the party draw up a list of suitable ca..."Have the party draw up a list of suitable candidates but don't have voting for individual candidates.<br />Voting to be for the party who, if it wins the seat, will place the best candidate on the list."<br /><br />That would be the worst possible way to elect a representative for a constituency.<br /><br />We need to be able to choose a local individual, preferably not a party member, by his or her experience, record and character. It is voting for parties that has produced the current crop of liars, crooks and incompetents at Westminster.<br /><br />Don CoxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-88038079575692991452019-05-19T14:15:45.869+01:002019-05-19T14:15:45.869+01:00@Dadad1 and Span Ows:
Very true, they regard glob...@Dadad1 and Span Ows:<br /><br />Very true, they regard globalisation as inevitable and for them it is a race to be the first to create a slave state, perhaps even the model for the others to emulate.<br /><br />It is up to ornery folk across the planet to try to thwart the communitarian projects, wherever they spring up, and there will be more, after the EU has been beaten back.<br /><br />Some people have suggested here that avoiding foreign produce is something they have been starting to do... It starts with the left boycotting South African or Israeli oranges and hopefully ends with all sensible people being more community minded rather than communitarian minded. <br /><br />In other words try to source stuff from down the road, rather than on the other side of the planet and keep communities operating so that communitarians can't turn us all into "soupers". This does not entail cutting of noses or spiting of faces, clearly if you need to source from further away, it is better than the above.<br /><br />Unlike globalisation this does not require forcing, or even nudging... It is normal human tribal behaviour.<br /><br />Stephen Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16628822966183977715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-67304288570465581532019-05-19T14:02:01.235+01:002019-05-19T14:02:01.235+01:00There's the small matter of Banks's £450,0...There's the small matter of Banks's £450,000, undeclared on the MEPs interests, for Farage to explain between now and polling day.<br /><br />Not that some of his voters will care one jot about his rule-breaking or dishonesty, being the cynical, moral degenerates that they are.<br /><br />But the polls are reliable of a sudden, are they? What happened to May's 21% lead in 2017?Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-74526221040755374162019-05-19T12:56:58.100+01:002019-05-19T12:56:58.100+01:00Thoughts on getting rid of misfit M.P.'s.
Have...Thoughts on getting rid of misfit M.P.'s.<br />Have the party draw up a list of suitable candidates but don't have voting for individual candidates.<br />Voting to be for the party who, if it wins the seat, will place the best candidate on the list.<br />The successful candidate will be retained by the party as a self employed short term contractor, they will have the same duties and powers of an M.P.<br />Payment will be from the same source but will be routed through the party.<br />Written into the contract will be the clause that the contract can be terminated at any time without cause, by giving seven days notice.<br />The misfit can be taken out of the loop and put counting paper clips for a week whilst the next inline candidate from the list is spun up to speed.<br />Quick change over no bye election no problems.<br />May sound Orwellian, communistic even but would scare off troughers and trouble makers.<br />Wouldn't trouble genuine candidates and would deal with the few implants who did blag their way in. RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-9358164626060468332019-05-19T12:46:13.616+01:002019-05-19T12:46:13.616+01:00Indeed, yesterday's three somments by Ed were ...Indeed, yesterday's three somments by Ed were soooo desperate and patently worded to get someone to feed it, nobody did, which was great.<br /><br />@Dadad1, 10:40 <br /><br /><i>"The political elites are not blind and deaf; they are actually campaigning to keep us in the EU and have always done so. That's why they hate Farage so much."</i><br /><br />Bingo and this makes their actions all the worse.Span Owshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144861546996033462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-88668221343873141402019-05-19T12:31:15.467+01:002019-05-19T12:31:15.467+01:00Don't allow him/her/it to goad you Ecky, two m...Don't allow him/her/it to goad you Ecky, two more shots then it's dead trolls click.RACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-43487695825958620572019-05-19T12:05:20.390+01:002019-05-19T12:05:20.390+01:00
Arrogance such as yours needs to be forcibly rem...<br /><br />Arrogance such as yours needs to be forcibly removed from you Cheesy. A civil war is perhaps what is really needed in this nation. A chance to settle with treasonous trash like you would not be unwelcome.<br /><br />Radders-- Cheese reveals himself as an arrogant remainiac puke and troll--all pretense of debate is now ended. I suggest it is time he was gone for good.Mr Ecksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-52002031009265660022019-05-19T12:03:19.917+01:002019-05-19T12:03:19.917+01:00Ah, the familiar Sneer and Smear that is all the R...Ah, the familiar Sneer and Smear that is all the Remain side can come up with<br /><br />The intellectual bankruptcy of the Remainers is staggering. No reasoned arguments, no countervailing positions, no cogent dialogue - just this gutter Sneer and Smear.<br /><br />Well, it simply doesn't work. Three more days of it will be like water off a duck's back. Raedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-41429791278505111172019-05-19T11:48:30.061+01:002019-05-19T11:48:30.061+01:00One problem is that no politician has the guts to ...One problem is that no politician has the guts to stand up and to nail the problem.<br /><br />That is, that the UK has millions of cynical, morally degenerate people, only too willing to service the primitive, dark-hearted side of their natures, and who find lying low-life like Farage very convenient.<br /><br />As I have said, they often don't really believe the tripe that he peddles. But claiming that they do gives them an excuse for their viciousness.<br /><br />We have seen it all before.<br /><br />The James O'Briens of this world are rather too kind.Cheerful Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-2509611460896619102019-05-19T11:27:47.327+01:002019-05-19T11:27:47.327+01:00Raed said: we are neither dumb cattle nor ill-educ...<br />Raed said: <i>we are neither dumb cattle nor ill-educated political fodder.</i><br /><br />Sadly, enough people <b>are</b> to make a difference i.e. Remainers, Labour voters, Greens etc (of course there are also many Tories of the same ilk too).<br /><br />I cannot emphasise enough that it is the media that 'pull the wool over our eyes' and lead many people by the nose to the wrong conclusion, usually based on lies and obfuscation.<br /><br />As an example, I watched a BBC News report on 'the rise of the far right' and at no time did it ask or answer the question <b>WHY</b>? Apart from the deliberate misrepresentation of anything slightly right of mainstream being 'far' right, the whole article was biased towards showing ordinary people, with ordinary concerns acting like 'fascists' in their choice of Government (they showed Orban in Hungary as one example).<br /><br />This was our National News Service that is supposed to be unbiased, balanced and accurate but, as we all know and acknowledge, they are co-opted to the Globalist way as are the MSM - and, let's not beat about the bush (bring on the accusations) they are almost wholly owned by people of a particular persuasion (another subject for another time perhaps).<br /><br />Those that <i>are neither dumb cattle nor ill-educated political fodder</i> are poorly 'advised' if I want to be generous towards their intelligence but the issue of Globalisation would be SETTLED if more people knew of and understood the consequences of Globalist motives. They aren't going to get that information from the BBC/MSM but those institutions have a disproportionate effect on decisions.<br />Dave_Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1537213245172078183.post-40591597183393433192019-05-19T10:40:13.446+01:002019-05-19T10:40:13.446+01:00The political elites are not blind and deaf; they ...The political elites are not blind and deaf; they are actually campaigning to keep us in the EU and have always done so. That's why they hate Farage so much.Dadad1noreply@blogger.com