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Sunday, 17 March 2019

It's official ... as long as the EU agree. Er, have agreed.

It seems Mrs May doesn't have a great deal of confidence that Parliament will go for MV3 this week after all - hardly surprising; knowing that not only MV4 but, erm, the decision of the EC27 on Britain's future is to come. But does May already know the answer? The Electoral Commission has just published on its website guidance for parties, candidates and non-party campaigners for the 2019 European Parliament elections. You might recall Parliament decided to ask for an extension to Article 50 on 14th March - but three days previous to this, a remarkably prescient official on behalf of the Electoral Commission, Steven Huntingdon, had already authored the election guidance;

 "On 23 May 2019 voters in the United Kingdom will cast their ballot to elect 73 members of the European Parliament". It really couldn't be clearer. And there was me thinking we were due to Leave on the 29th March.

Just two quotes to finish with - the first from Rod Liddle in the Times
So long, Brexit, you bright star. You did not stand a chance

Brexit is, if not actually dead, wired up to drips in a hospice, with its relatives dropping round, one by one, to say goodbye. Our MPs have dropped even the pretence that they have any intention of respecting the democratic mandate they were charged with implementing.

Bizarrely, some Brexiteers still think no deal is not merely possible, but probable. What drugs are they on: horse tranquillisers? It will not be allowed to happen. How can they not see this, after the past two years? The best possible option is the hapless Maybot’s travesty of a Brexit. It’s that or nothing.

Next, the EU will insist upon a second referendum and we will have one. But we will not have a third referendum unless the next one fails to go the way that the EU and our establishment want. My suspicion is that if a second referendum were a simple binary choice, like the first one, and fought from the Brexiteer side simply on the issue of the need to abide by the original vote, “leave” would win handsomely. This is hardly a scientific survey, but of my scores of remainer friends, the overwhelming majority nobly attest they would vote leave simply on democratic principle.

But we won’t have a binary choice. The second referendum will be gerrymandered, as the whole process has been gerrymandered by a government, House of Commons, House of Lords, broadcast media and big business, which never wanted it and thinks the rest of us are all uneducated and stupid. Pop into the hospice and say your goodbyes. Remind the patient of that glad bright morning in June 2016 — you might bring a wry smile to its face. They were never going to let it happen. 
The second from David Starkey
The People voted 52 to 48 per cent to leave; an estimated 74 per cent of MPs voted to remain.

No representative assembly can sustain such a gulf. Either People or Parliament must give way.

And so it has proved as, in its profound lack of wisdom and in its disregard for the central thread of its own history, Parliament has decided it is the People who should change. Or, rather, be changed.

This is not the first time such a thing has happened. Before the fall of the Berlin Wall, Communist states were ruled by similarly pampered, out-of-touch and privileged elites who, against all the evidence, claimed to represent the People.


Dave_G said...

Before the fall of the Berlin Wall, Communist states were ruled by similarly pampered, out-of-touch and privileged elites who, against all the evidence, claimed to represent the People.

.... and look what happened to bring about the 'fall of communism'. If May wants her Ceaușescu moment then she's welcome to it.

Seriously - I feel trouble is brewing.

Martin said...

So who is going to hold the people at gunpoint, and make them vote Remain, then?

Raedwald said...


A - Remain in the EU, or

B- Remain in the EU?

We will implement what you decide

That's what gerrymander means, Martin. Email me if you still don't understand.

Billy Marlene said...

No Radders. Thick as we are, we are not taken in by that!


1. Remain in the EU

2. Not Leave the EU

jack ketch said...

Now let me think...

Ron Liddle? That would be the Ron Liddle who worked between 1983 and 1987 as a speechwriter and researcher for the Labour Party, then went on to be the editor of the 'Today Programme' and a journo for several newspapers?

David Starkey? Like or loathe him, no one disputes his knowledge of british constitutional/political history.

So two men who should really know exactly how politicians are and whom would normally be skeptical of any utterance an MP might make; two men who more than most should recognise platitudes such as 'brexit means brexit' are now whining like little kids who've just been told that there is no Santa Claus?

Ed P said...

If the noble citizens of this once great land were still allowed to bear arms, I suspect there would already be fewer than 650 MPs.
Utterly disgraceful sell-out to their EU masters - it will never be forgotten.

Raedwald said...

Ed - I'm assuming you mean that Betrayer MPs would feel such moral scruples that they would retire to their studies with a glass of whisky and a revolver. Not possible on two counts - the betrayers have no moral scruples, and few own revolvers.

One other point strikes me about the publication of this guidance now - that it's intended to catch all Leave Means Leave / Brexit Party expenditure back to 23rd Jan as 'election expenditure', including the current march, even though much of the money spent will have been spent when no election had been announced and this guidance had not been issued.

It seems the betrayer establishment are already building more legal cases against anyone who supports Brexit, a sort of muzzle on free speech of which the Stasi would be proud.

DeeDee99 said...

Since the Establishment are determined to stop Brexit, they must be made to own the betrayal.

The British people must understand that the likes of Blair, Mandelson, Hammond and Heseltine have over-ruled them and this country is not a democracy.

DeeDee99 said...

Just listened to a Labour MP on Sky who is proposing a "compromise amendment."

Since Parliament refuses to pass Treason May's Surrender Treaty, the decision should be made by the British people in a "confirmatory vote." ("The Peoples Vote not mentioned once of course since it's been laughed out of court .... this is a very different kind of vote. So different, it's identical.)

The choice would be:

a) Accept Treason May's Surrender
b) Remain in the EU (by default)

And this time it would be binding on MPs; the decision would not return to Parliament. So the people would get what the majority voted for. Except LEAVE is not on offer!

Remi Moses said...

"Now let me think...

Ron Liddle? That would be the Ron Liddle who worked between 1983 and 1987 as a speechwriter and researcher for the Labour Party, then went on to be the editor of the 'Today Programme' and a journo for several newspapers?"

No, it would be Rod Liddle. Who this Ron Liddle you speak of is beyond anyone

jack ketch said...

No, it would be Rod Liddle-Remi Moses

Thank you, for minute there I thought I had done my usual thing of confusing alliterating surnames (damn you Beowulf)- Churchill/Chamberlain or Lawson/Lamont. I commented at 23:44 so I will assume tired, old eyes and too much bed time tricyclics.

jack ketch said...

Raed you may be right, word on the wire is that May expects -if MPs don't agree with her treaty this week- to be offered a 9 month extension by the EU. Which to my mind would indicate, by the length of it, the extension will indeed be coupled with another referendum :( ...God help us all.

3 months to get to the EU elections and then the oft mentioned 6 months to hold a referendum.

Mark said...

I still don't see that the 29th March withdrawal has been overturned in law yet. May hasn't formally asked for an extension and even if granted, the requisite legislation may be a statutory instrument but there is a process to get it through commons and lords and they only have 12 days (including today).

Rossa said...

Bercow has blocked the vote on the basis that she can’t ask MPs to vote again unless her WA is substantially amended.