The next Brexit negotiations resume tomorrow - with an increasingly nervous Brussels starting to whine that David Davis and his team are not following their rules. The EU has already published a whole series of comprehensive position papers in damning detail and is starting to realise too late that this may not have been the best idea.
The Federasts imagined that they would dominate the whole process to the extent that we would have no choice but to fall in with their programme, but so far what we have done is largely to question the basis of their published positions; what exactly are the legal grounds on which they make their grasping financial claims? How precisely have these sums been calculated?
We have responded to their citizenship / movement proposals but they say we don't go far enough. Shrug. However, having now published their own comprehensive proposals, they can hardly row back on promised rights; to do so would be to appear unbearably spiteful. So they're stuck.
They simply can't accept that this is a bi-lateral negotiation and we're an equal player in the game, with our own plan and agenda. Our refusal to obey their rules has got them on the back foot, and a nervous and unstable Brussels is starting to aim bitter barbs at Britain. I can find nothing so far for which to criticise David Davis and his team.
If we get a petulant Federast temper tantrum tomorrow evening, it will be a good indication that things are going well.
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Can't help thinking that the ideal point man for the UK in the forthcoming "negotiations" would be a mash up of Neegan (from the Walking Dead prog) & Alistair Morton (in his EuroTunnel construction persona)
The thing is:
The more they try to punish us, the nastier they look both within and without the EU.
The more they try to punish us, the more they need an EU army, and the more the member states will understand why.
The more they try to punish us, the more that voted to remain, will now be siding with leave.
Sort of like the advice one needs to heed when digging a hole.
right-writes
If I was a professional historian I would be beavering away on the first chapters of 'The Decline and Fall of the European Union' to beat the rush.
Chapter One
Hubris and Child Molestation
right-writes. You reading my mind or something?
Absolutely bang on the money. They will be ensuring that Remain voters want Brexit.
They (EU) thought it would all be so easy, that we'd just cave in and accept their ludicrous demands - 100 billion - GTF outta here!
Not that it's been tried before, er, hang on. . .
By publishing their "citizenship / movement proposals" the EU can now be played by Italy and eventually Greece. Whatever the EU does exposes their stupidity and lack of economic sense.
The EU biggest problem is not Brexit, it is gimmegrants and the tremendous strain they put on the EU budgets. Half of their membership recognizes this.
If yUK negotiators were even half-way smart they would now have a series of tenders aimed at replacing the border agency. That would send a message like no other.
Meanwhile the great thinkers of remainyUK propose giving taxwasters two votes to the taxpayers one vote, confirming that they regard taxpayers as little more than the US slaves-who at least had a 3/5 vote
Disarray and stupidity abounds.
BoJo made his bones reporting on Brussels, David Davis has had a career in business.
What has Brussels got? An Enarque who has surrendered to every trade union he's met.
Meanwhile, Seimens sells turbines to Crimea,VW gets more profits despite the emissions scandal.
Are these guys going to accept trade restriction on one of their most important markets?
Barnier better have three sets of underpants because there's going to be some electrics applied.
If we don't FIU it'll be our own fault. We have the trumps.
Maybe that's why Traitor Blair felt it necessary to "intervene" and try to wreck the British negotiating position over the weekend.
Yes, great plan and it will certainly stick two fingers up at Johny Foreigner.
I'm sure it will work out just fine, after the riots, crack down, etc. as trade crashes to a halt..
err - you were 'aving a larf, weren't you?
(if not you might nip over to eureferendum.com for a bit of clue)
Piss off Anon--North talks it up like he is the sole voice of sense in the Universe.
But he is far from it.
Anon, If you listen to our side and the EU side you will realise that it is the EU's Jonny Foreigner who is slagging off the UK. Not us slagging them. That was the point of Raedwald's comment.
Sorry chaps, forgot to add that it was gareth (don't do ID stuff)
However,
Mr Ecks, please explain your "sense in the Universe" and how it will work when we voluntarily put ourselves outsides the EU's (pre existing) legislation walls? I'd be interested in any great ideas about how to get round the animal products requirements (and FO EU doesn't count).
Budgie, slagging is a bit of a loose term, not much use if you are intending on agreeing any sort of deal, is it? Think now.
I've been wanting for us to leave the EU since before the MSM even knew what art 50 was, and voted accordingly. But, to use an analogy, "you need to loose some weight" is not the same as "you need to saw your own head off".
You might not like North (perhaps understandably) but he is right, and has the research to back him up. Unlike the turds in out gov.
gareth
The only possible ray of optimism in the UK Govs approach to the process is to recall that most of our continental entanglements have started out with us on the back foot and either the frogs or the krauts carrying all before them, only to come a cropper in the second half.
I am reasonably confident therefore that after the German elections are out of the way then some sense will start to be talked on all sides.
The main problem we have here now is that May stupidly nailed her colours to the mast for an immediate departure from the single market and as it slowly dawns on her and the brexit team that that will be a complete disaster she needs somehow to unwind that position without exciting the headbangers who could if provoked put Corbyn into number 10. A phased departure really is the only way.
Difficult times, but we've been there before, and at least in this case our young men aren't dying!
Herr Juncker he said
You can't leave the eu
We replied fuck em all
And to start with fuck you.
Negotiations? We don't need your stinking negotiations.
Cuffleyburgers, You obviously do not understand the prevalent negotiating culture on the continent: offering a compromise is seen as weakness.
As well you need to understand that our exports to the EU amount to only about 10% of UK GDP. Even under WTO trading rules (which we already use for our greater exports to the rest of the world) we will not lose it all. So not a "complete disaster". Stop panicking.
Unlike Greece we are not negotiating from a 'need/want to remain in' position. The EU is finding that their threats are meaningless since they cannot enforce them and we know that it is their best interests to make compromises.
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