As Brendan points out "The judge’s actual words were that Fransen and Golding had ‘demonstrated hostility’ to ‘people of the Muslim faith’ in their harassing, obsessive campaign around that Kent rape case. That is, to Muslims." And yes, intimidating, harassing, assaulting, abusing people of Islamic faith or people of no faith is a crime and yes they were rightly convicted. What they were explicitly NOT convicted of, because it is not a crime in Britain, was 'hating Islam'.
In fact, 'hating Islam' is protected by law - specifically by Section 29J of the 2006 Racial and Religious Hatred Act:-
29J Protection of freedom of expression
Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.However, in questioning whether crimes should be punished more harshly because they were religiously, or racially, or sexually motivated, Brendan O'Neill raises a cogent and compelling point - has the law got this wrong? If I get the shit kicked out of me because some thug thinks I'm an arse, should he be treated more leniently than if he was triggered because I was a white arse, or a Catholic arse? My injuries are no different, but the law says that if I have no protected characteristic, my body, my safety, my protection is less worthy than another citizen - how can this possibly be right?
What is of equal concern is that police, councils, schools, MPs and journalists are misrepresenting the law in order to convince the public that hating Islam is thoughtcrime. It really isn't. Personally, I regard the Muslim faith as an empty, primitive and worthless belief system, with no redeeming features, that hinders people from progress and from betterment. I think the world would be a better place without it. And I can say all that quite, quite legally. And since British law on these things had to be made in line with all relevant European rights legislation, I can say it quite legally anywhere in Europe. So there.
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The concept of "hate crime" is ridiculous. There is no "love crime" after all.
And whether I am assaulted by someone that hates me or someone who likes the look of my wallet is a distinction without a difference, as well as being very hard to prove or disprove.
It is just virtue signalling by Parliament.
There was a phrase delivered by Claire Perry MP (AKA "Caroline Blucas") recently that epitomised the attitude of many in the public sector who seek to impose on us *regardless* of what the law actually says:
Using the might of the public sector to drive differential behaviours" at 1m:40s
Is harassment by a neighbour a hate crime? Would your next door neighbour be sent down for being obnoxious and threatening.
I suspect not.
The whole hate crime concept is an attempt to crush dissent.
Surely Islam itself is the very definition of 'thought crime', of Double+ god?
Raedwald said:
'I think the world would be a better place without it.'
No argument:
The Myth:
Muslim apologists sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is "peace" in Arabic.
The Truth:
An Arabic word that has only one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no disagreement about this among Arabic or Islamic scholars, al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.
Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace can be brought about by forcing others into submission. As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."
In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also orders them to subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its military and demographic success in conquering other peoples and cultures.
And our ignorant and pathetic politicians let them settle here by the shedload. From 50,000 in 1961 to well over 3,000,000 now - and they know demographics is destiny.
Steve
Hate crime, well, I hate and detest lots of people and especially Governments! I hate and detest the Turks for not acknowledging the Armenian massacre, when it is proven beyond doubt and the British and Americans know this.
I hate and detest the Joo's for making money out of the Holocaust and I hate the USA and Britain for being so fucking lily-livered and wimps of the highest order.. Everything is all about oil and POWER, of course. I hate the Bwankers just as much. Enough said!
Some 20 odd years ago, maybe more, I spent a night guarding a German "Vital to national interests" Factory (why a sex toys factory needed armed guards is beyond me). 2 man team at night and that night my partner was a German from Ober Nosebleeden or somewhere inbred and rural. The first half of the night he spewed forth some of the most vile anti-semitic bilge I have ever heard and hope never to hear again. So bad that I am not prepared to repeat it even now; suffice to say that even Julius Streicher would said 'steady on'.
The second half of the night shift he turned his attention to the growing number of 'Musselmen' (Muslims) in his beloved 'Heimat' (Home Land). I treated his utterances with the same contempt I had had for his Antisemitism and swore to myself I would call in sick the next day if I was going to be paired up with him again.
Thing is, most of his dire warnings about the danger Islam posed , his prophecies about islamification...they have all come true, the more so in the yUK even than in Germany, strangely enough.
Good post and agreed.
Does it matter?
If you were to do anything it would have been decades ago with mass immigration , multiculturism etc etc. And , by and large , you all did nothing.
The police ceased being police ages ago. Now they are para military political enforcers.
We allowed the scum of Cultural Marxism 50 years to peddle their "racism, racism, RACISM" hysteria such that a head of emotional steam was built up that has folk pissing their pants with fear and outrage at the very sound of the word.
This then gives the scum of the left what they need to supress all dissent to the replacement of the British and to turn white folk into a despised minority in what used to be their country.
What to do now is the real issue.
@ Mr Ecks (0950)
Clearly what we are not allowed to do is to invite speakers from abroad:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/11/hold-austrian-identitarian-leader-martin-sellner-arrested-at-heathrow-airport-ahead-of-planned-speech/
And once again the "powers that be" show themselves to be the real racists because of the exceedingly low standards of behaviour to which they hold the members of "The Religion (& Ideology) of Peace". For if any other group threatened to riot rape and pillage if their core beliefs were discussed (not necessarily condemned), they would be rounded up for a very rough time in custody. This lot however get all the homage due from the defeated government to our new invading rulers!
This disparity can be nothing other than racism. Why has "the establishment" not been rounded up wholesale?
I started reading the Koran, and I will complete it. I will. I will . . . . It read like a finger-wagging, low-grade, prod-nose giving the reader/aspirant a rolling bollocking based on a comic book interpretation of the Jewish and Christian faiths plus a few druggy stupors. It was not just dreadful, it was hopeless.
After the uprising of the 17th June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?
The Solution - Bertolt Brecht
That is what the huge inflow of migrants is for - we've been de-selected by the establishment.
Budgie said @ 20:12 (11 March 2018)
'That is what the huge inflow of migrants is for - we've been de-selected by the establishment.'
Correct. If you can't get change you want change the people.
Steve
Mr Ecks and Budgie, what you say is all too true. However what I simply cannot fathom is where do these self hating white Cultural Marxists and their treacherous enablers in government expect to live when their plans are accomplished.
Once the real tipping point is reached those few of them that made enough profit out of it will bolt and the majority of the useful idiot masochists left behind will (if they are lucky) get a quick end.
It is at least thirty years ago when a lady, who is a family friend of many years, arrived on our doorstep in great distress.
She worked for local social services and had been sent for a day's RAT (Racial
Awareness Training).
The instructor had told the course that racism was a feature of only the white population, particularly the English.
Now this lady attends a Church which sends members of its congregation to a Church in Africa each year to help with the project the congregation has funded that year.- new toilets, new well, new dispensary etc. the African Church is in an area where genocidal inter-tribal warfare occurs.
So our friend spoke up and said "That's not right" and gave some more instances of racism by non whites. She was told "No, no. That is quite different".
When she would not agree, the instructor said this just showed how profoundly
racist she was. He then invited the other members of the course to join in with
a sort of Maoist struggle session to make her recant. That was what had upset her so much.
Everybody in any sort of public sector job will have undergone training of this
sort. So, whatever the law says, they will be very careful to conform outwardly
to the official line. A word out of turn can cost you your job.
DP111...
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/uk-whistleblowers-on-muslim-rape-gangs-in-telford-were-punished-silenced-and-fired-from-their-jobs
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/uk-lord-asks-government-to-ask-muslim-leaders-to-issue-fatwa-against-rape-gangs-gets-lies-in-response
The figure of brutal and systematic gang rapes of White girls, is more in the region of 50,000. Assuming a single girl was raped by ten men, that is 500,000 Muslim men of Pakistani heritage. That is virtually the entire sexually able Muslim men of Pakistani heritage.
There can hardly be any doubt that the entire Muslim community of {Pakistani heritage knew this was going on - women and imams. All of them.
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