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Tuesday, 2 July 2019

Will the EU's five Presidents become six?

Having put their man Martin Selmayr into one of the EU's top posts, the Germans thought there would be little opposition to giving another, Manfred Weber, one of the EU's five unelected presidencies. Everyone accepts, after all, that Germany really runs the EU so why not cut the pretence and improve efficiency by openly giving all the top jobs to Germans?

"He's just too boring" complained the other EU26 "he even puts his wife to sleep telling her about his day at work. He's an utterly mediocre unknown nobody whom even his own mother doesn't recognise in the street. No."

So far the EU Council have met for three days to allow the Germans to get their own way, but so far without success. The appointment of the EU's presidents is an exercise in gangsters splitting the loot an important decision affecting the lives of hundreds of millions. So its quite appropriate that it should be stitched up in private by horse dealing without the people having a vote on it to ensure that all the right snouts have access to the trough.

The latest proposal being considered, reported by politico.eu, is to put the socialist Timmermans into the Commission presidency job and bumping the dreary Weber over to be president of the EP. However, this would push out the favourite Guy Verhofstadt who covets the EP job as an child covets a Christmas X-box. The suggested solution? Make them both presidents. The EU already has five presidents - people will hardly notice another one.

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Superb! Opening session of the EP this morning and the Brexit Party turn their backs as the Antidemocracy Anthem is played - hats off! Is that Ann Widdecombe to the left? Video available at  http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=02-07-2019 (I see the Sommelier is waiting in the gangway - Herr Juncker must be on his way)



Oh yes - just one more thing -

20 comments:

Jack the dog said...

Morning Radders, just had a chuckle looking at the order of the names on the ballot paper, and for some reason the thought came to me yes of course it's like that because C comes before J.

I'm sorry I couldn't help it...

DeeDee99 said...

I watched Hunt give a dull, dreary, charisma-free interview to Sky yesterday. If Conservative Members vote for him, they really will have accepted that the Party committed suicide when it failed to oust Treason May last December and ensure we would really leave the EU in March.

I don't suppose it's occurred to Merkel, Macron et all that perhaps they should allow the people in the EU's captive nations to decide who should be "their" Presidents? Nah, of course not. They are there to be ruled - not to hold their rulers to account.

Cheerful Edward said...

Oh, the irony.

The UK has plenty of truly unelected presidents, of the Law Commission, Board for Trade and Industry, etc.

The means for selecting par posts in the European Union is a model of representative democracy, transparency, and accountability however, compared with the bizarre imposition of the next head of government upon the UK's people by a clique of a few rather unusual ones.

rapscallion said...

@Cheerful Edward.

You cannot be serious surely? The President of the Law Commission and Board of Trade do not have executive power in the same way as the Prime Minister. The most certainly do not control policy is the same way that the 5 presidents of the EU do, none of which are elected. At least the PM is elected to their seat by ordinary people, which is more than can be said for the EUSSR Presidents. And whilst we're at it, as the comparison so many who love the EU like to make is the one to the United States, which has a President and a Vice President, both of which are elected by the People, something they would never attempt in the EU.

Cheerful Edward said...

The policy of the European Union is the Lisbon Treaty.

Extensions or rules within that must be passed by both the Council of Ministers and by Parliament.

The supreme power is the Council of the twenty-eight leaders chaired by Donald Tusk. Yes, he speaks for their decisions.

Please state an "executive power" on the part of one of these post holders, with which you have a problem?

Raedwald said...

Oh Edward do stop pretending that there is a vestige of democracy in the way the EU is run. Everyone with an ounce of sense knows very well the deals, crooked stitch ups, closed-door carve-ups, economic bribery, democratic frauds and threats and thuggery by which the unelected officials of the EU govern.

As far as they're concerned, rules are for little people.

Smoking Scot said...

Now Mr. Raedwald, Sir. You must know by now that Mr. Edward is not one of the little people. He is an intellectual giant posing as the equivalent of a floating turd upon your blog.

Credit where due, he's exceptionally good at it too.

Cheerful Edward said...

You expose your epistemological problems yet again, me ol' flower.

How does "everyone" "know" these things that you claim? Come on? Evidence?

Not everyone in the world is as bent as the likes of Johnson, Farage, and Banks, you know.

That's a key failing of the cynic. He truly believes that everyone else is like him.

Mark said...

Evidence?

Selmayr!

Smoking Scot said...

At no point did I state "everyone" Mr. Edward.

You have made it perfectly clear to me that you are a font of all knowledge and you recently stated you are hugely attractive to the opposite sex. I am in awe. I am bedazzled, though not in the least envious.

The rest, the floating turd bit - well that's a personal opinion and I wait patiently for someone (3rd party) to say otherwise.

Ed P said...

Arn't the floaters the ones with excess fat? i suggest Cheerless has some medical tests - perhaps his digestive issues are colouring his judgements?

Cheerful Edward said...

Raedwald said "everyone with an ounce...knows". I was replying to him.

I didn't say that I was attractive, just that people, who happen to be women, generally liked me, as I do them. I get on OK with the other sort too by and large, Scottie.

I always get my round and I don't let people down.

Anonymous said...

Cheerful Edward said @ 08:08

'The UK has plenty of truly unelected presidents, of the Law Commission, Board for Trade and Industry, etc.'

I must have read dozens of your comments. The above quote of yours - plucked for no particular reason - is typical of the inane bollocks you write. Right from the get go the 'project', now called the European Union, is a black hole of democratic accountability; so let's go back in time shall we:

“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.” - Jean Monnet

Deceit Mr Edward, it was always the way because they knew if it was ever put to the people in a democratic vote the thing would never fly.

Steve

Mark said...

@Anonymous

Indeed, with the Euro pretty well intended to be the slam dunk.

Alas, economics isn't just yankee voodoo as they are finding out.

Cheerful Edward said...

Jean Monnet died in 1979, you silly billy.

His thinking was typical of many of his era who had experienced WWI and WWII, and a moment's reflection would explain why. Some present-day Tories were Marxists back then.

His ideas do not inform the hundreds of millions, who endorse the most advanced, civilised, enlightened peace project that the world has ever seen in its modern form.

But so what? The European Union, all being well, will be rid of this offshore curiosity, its wrecking tactics on behalf of its US masters, and of people like you before long.

Mark said...

"His ideas do not inform the hundreds of millions......"

So what does then?

Cascadian said...

There is a reasonably good (but unneccessarily long) explanation over at Zerohedge, the consequences of the recent Euro polls and the disastrous CDU losses in Germany are becoming evident.

In short-the populists are making their views known, and demanding something better than recent dreary choices.

Cheerful Edward said...

Ever heard of peace, happiness, health, and friendship, Mark?

Mark said...

Orwell died in 1950, you silly billy.

Mainwaring said...

Good gracious! Brexit party members back-turning reminds us all of the same action by the NSDAP party in the Reichstag in 1926. There's even a phot on Alamy Stock Photo.

Back to your roots?