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The changes make even more certain that Labour will become the de facto permanent party of large metropolitan centres, with complete control of local government. The challenge for the Conservatives is to win-over the traditional Labour vote.
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Only for a while
Soon, the muslim vote will be sufficient to win seats without the rapidly decreasing Labour vite.
It wont be long until we see the Labour Islamic Party running like the Labour and Cooperative party does now, and then Islamic labour party, then just the Islamic party running in coalition, and finally the Islamic party running against and beating Labour.
I thought that the CONservative Party had its own issues as it attempts to crown itself as the successor to King Tony...
It keeps appointing ever more, less credible pretenders.
"The challenge for the Conservatives is to win-over the traditional Labour vote."
Well it appears that some are willing to help them. In the past day or so, Blair has announced that the Labour Party is probably permanently lost to the Marxists, and on LBC yesterday Pro-EU obsessive, Lord Adonis, told Labour-voting Brexit voters to vote Conservative.
https://order-order.com/2018/09/07/adonis-dont-vote-labour/
"“If you’re a Brexiter, I hope that you won’t vote for the Labour Party because the Labour Party is moving increasingly against Brexit… I’m saying if what you want is Brexit delivered, you should vote for the party that is going to deliver Brexit, which I’m afraid is the Conservatives.”
It would appear that Blair/Adonis are planning to lose Corbyn's core working class vote for him and make Labour an electoral rump.
They appear prepared to accept the weak-as-dishwater Brexit Treason May is proposing in order to destroy Labour as an electoral force. As this is coming the same time as Vince Cable's announcement that he will retire post-Brexit and open the leadership to non-members, it would seem that Blair/ Adonis/Cable are aiming to create a Pro-EU bloc and a Pro-Sovereignty bloc which more properly reflects the current political divide than the old left/right one.
The next couple of years are going to be very interesting.
Labour , under the head choppers, crane hangers or Pro-Israelis is simply three ends of the same piece of turd. Where ever you grab it, it will stink and spoil your day.
The Tories are no better - just a shorter length of turd, perhaps wrapped in a single layer of tissue paper. Only-just acceptable to pick up with two fingers and at arms length.
The current two-party system is finished. This isn't choice - this is suicide. There MUST be alternatives and the less credible the existing parties become, the MORE credible the alternatives become - regardless of any left/right leaning they may have (or be inferred to have).
You can imagine the field day the MSM would have with a party that was anti-EU and anti-Islam..... but this is what we're faced with. We now NEED such a party and I, for one, am prepared to vote for ANY party that offers such a route and I couldn't care less for the consequences. The alternatives are worse.
Talk about 'being backed into a corner.....' Thanks for nothing you fuckwit politicians.
The 2 party system isn’t finished yet. But when the big recession hits it will be. At the moment, in economic terms, we are bubbling gently along, and most normal people don’t pay attention to politics in these circumstances to care much about who wins an internal Labour fight.
That’s why the Marxists are winning in Labour. They’re the only people obsessive enough to go to all the meetings.
Dave G, UKIP is anti-EU and anti-Islamist. I know of no party that is so robust on both issues which is also big enough to have an impact. There are many smaller splinter parties with similar policies but they are electorally insignificant. Obviously the Tory party hasn't woken up to the threat of the EU, never mind Islamism.
I talked to a Muslim Labour activist a couple of years ago who was upset about the selection of a particular council candidate in a vote off between two Muslims. I innocently said "but they were both Muslims?" (ie so what's your beef?) and he replied: "Wrong tribe." As Raedwald implies here Muslims are imposing their own civil war on us whether we like it or not.
The culprit? We have been indoctrinated to sneer at our own culture, so we are losing a war that most do not recognise as happening at all. Our loss of rational self-belief as a nation would see us disappear. You only have to read the rather dim Jack Ketch's comments to see that.
"The current two-party system is finished. This isn't choice - this is suicide. There MUST be alternatives and the less credible the existing parties become, the MORE credible the alternatives become - regardless of any left/right leaning they may have (or be inferred to have)."
Lets be honest, it doesn't matter any more who the people vote for, the country is governed by the left leaning liberal elite who infest all State organisations. We see it very starkly over Brexit, and if any UKIP style government were to be swept to power in the future we'd see it in spades - no reforms that its MPs voted for in Parliament would happen on the ground, because those employed to make it happen don't want it to.
There's only one way to reform the way the country is run, and thats cut off the money. Either via direct cuts in departmental budgets or by introducing ways the public can withdraw funding from State bodies - education vouchers, healthcare vouchers etc etc. The former tends not to work very well, as all bureaucracies know how to counter spending cuts - immediately cut the things that affect the public directly, rather than the waste and ideologically directed stuff. So you're left with introducing competition in some way. And getting the State apparatus to introduce it in a way that doesn't stifle it entirely would be the battle.
Sobers said: "... all bureaucracies know how to counter spending cuts - immediately cut the things that affect the public directly, rather than the waste and ideologically directed stuff." Brilliantly put.
Sobers said: "There's only one way to reform the way the country is run, and that's cut off the money." Again well said. For example, the BBC and the EU are simply un-reformable. So we can avoid paying the BBC TV Tax, and avoid buying EU stuff. There are now lots of choices, and people are already voting with their wallets.
Perhaps a second Referendum on the Alternative Vote?
"The challenge for the Conservatives is to"-show they are anything much more than a nannying, indecisive, free-speech hating cadre of no-hopers who concentrate on:
ignoring sensible conservative voters'
plastic bags,
ministers of loneliness,
high failure wimmin ministers,
internet-hating,
FGM and sharia-law loving,
Russia hating,
Grenfell tower victim fetishists,
Theresa May failure apologists.
And frankly, I doubt they can do it.
Sunday Telegraph headline: "Theresa May gambles on disaffected Labour moderates to get Chequers Brexit plan through Parliament". So, we will get the Robbins WP (Chequers) revolving-door Remain (or something very close). I did try to warn here that the Parliamentary arithmetic was against us. Whether Corbyn "officially" endorses it the Remains in Parliament will see to us getting Mrs May's Remain. Queue Tory party meltdown.
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