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Tuesday 30 July 2019

Saint Greta: We should all travel by J-class yacht

Older readers may recall the last of the J-class yachts of past years; enormous, ocean-going yachts that could accommodate a pair of chesterfield sofas in the saloon, the world's most exclusive rich persons toys, built of solid Honduran Mahogany (now virtually extinct) Teak (under threat) and brass.

The parents of Saint Greta are planning a US tour for her to help establish the global Saint Greta brand and monetise ascetic environmentalism. The problem is, Saint Greta doesn't fly. And a Cunard liner sends the wrong message - all that dirty marine oil. So she's setting the perfect example - we must all in future do as she will do, and cross the pond in a J-class.

Saint Greta will undergo the privations of a primitive luxury yacht

J-class vessels are being built anew, from steel and aluminium, both of which cost a paltry 2 tonnes of CO2 per tonne to make, or GRP, the unsustainable unrecyclable blight of a thousand boatyards where old hulls have been dumped.

With a ten day passage time to New York, the new J-class yachts that will need to be built to carry the current 3m passengers a year who currently fly from LHR to JFK will give business to Europe's shipyards for years ahead. Suggestions that this is all just money-grabbing virtue signalling by Saint Greta's parents were strongly denied.

45 comments:

Stephen J said...

My she was yar...

DeeDee99 said...

I'll be gobsmacked if The Donald goes down on his knees and begs for her forgiveness, like Gove did.

Stephen J said...
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Sackerson said...

JPM's comment has disappeared - was he a troll? I was going to suggest that those who are moved by the bang-you-on-the-head-with-a-baby approach to CO2 ought to get themselves down to the Brazilian Embassy and protest:

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/07/29/brazils-massive-crime-against-humanity/

Charles said...

At some point people will realise that this empress has no clothes, until then try to keep your blood pressure down. Hopefully the Donald will bequeath this prophet of doom to the Democrats, thus guaranteeing his second term.

Raedwald said...

He was deleted for defamation. He's welcome to post if he avoids defamation. My original post is not defamatory.

RAC Esq. said...

Am I the only person who had to do a search to find out who the feck this saint was. OK I remembered soon as I found it but in my defense I'd say greasy little pimples in the news cycle are soon forgot. In my search though I came across an article with these ironic paragraphs. Pity the saints parents didn't heed them some years ago....

" It is especially ironic to see left-wing progressives and modish media figures, who spend their time jetting around the world lecturing about the environment, hailing the wisdom of youth even while warning that babies are a bigger threat than grown men and women who jet around the world lecturing about the environment.

One such figure is TV personality Chris Packham, who has said he will not have children in order to protect the Planet, and would educate women everywhere to embrace his own negative view of having babies as a personal burden as well as a burden on ‘the planet’.""

JPM said...

Greta is a child, with the simplicity of a child. People are reacting to her words. She also has Asperger's syndrome and other problems. What her celebrity parents do or say is another matter, but her achievements cannot be denied.

Those fatalists, who think that the environmental problems caused by human activity are so vast that it's easier to pretend that they don't exist are mistaken.

Diligent, sincere scientists, with humility before fact, have established that it is likely that if a trillion trees were planted, then that would cancel out the effects of the carbon dioxide that man has added to the atmosphere.

That might sound a lot, but bear in mind that the people of Ethiopia recently planted a hundred and fifty million trees in a single DAY of action.

Greta is correct. With a will, these problems can be solved.

Incidentally, I see that Jacob Rees-Mogg's new job title is "Leader Of The House of Commons, Lord President Of The Council." Why, it makes those mere "presidents" of various European Union bodies seem positively modest, doesn't it?

What a wellington eh, me ol' chinas?

dustybloke said...

I doubt her parents have much say in the matter, they just write the cheques to Gail

Anonymous said...

Re: RAC

You'll notice its only white people they want to stop having babies. There's never any commentary on how the population of Africa is forecast to be 2.4 Billion by 2050.

Nah, its those damn white babies.

Its just another facet of the Globalists desire to obliterate white nations and white people.

RAC Esq. said...

Try a different bait, that one aint working.

Anonymous said...

shouldn't she have chosen the proper method of transport across the pond, of green scandis, eric the red and all - went by long boat.

Anonymous said...

Even better - if she is a saint perhaps she should walk across the water.

Raedwald said...

Hahaha! Kontiki IV - a raft made out of plastic McDonalds drinking straws - would actually be a more ecological alternative than an aluminium, Teak and plastic billionnaires toy - but I doubt the parents would risk their little money-spinner

Mark The Skint Sailor said...

When government policy is following the outpourings of a petulant teenager, you know the government is F@@ked.

When she's lived a life (and I mean a real, warts 'n' all life, not as a child of Millionaire parents), then I might and I mean might take a bit more notice of her.

But to me she has the gravitas of a gnat.

I'm sick of all these privileged people telling the poorer plebs how to live their live. As it is, climate change is a mechanism to provide the greatest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.

Until those that tell us how to live our lives give up their limousines, their mansions and live in a hole in the ground wearing environmental sack-cloth then bollocks to the lot of 'em.

mongoose said...

The silly child. The boat is a billionaire's toy, registered in Monaco, natch. It's a development thread for the forthcoming Vendee. A zero carbon yatch, fuck me. Of course it is.

JPM said...

Mark, she's not trying to have what you call gravitas.

She's been lifted to prominence by the emotional reaction of ordinary, normal, family people, who just want to get on with their lives, and who would prefer them not to be disrupted by any crisis, whether it be possible climate disasters - which might be averted - or by economic and social turmoil, caused by alienating the most friendly, civilised nations that there could be for that matter.

Span Ows said...

Anon's 'bait' (11:15) isn't bait, it is correct! For a couple decades at least we have been told not to have more babies and lo and behold now we MUSt have immigration becasue there aren't enough people. That whole can of worms is worth 10 posts on its own and it is no mistake/ conspiracy theory.

Kontiki, balsa wood, great memories.

More trees than 100 years ago, more palnted than cut down although tree cropping is no ral replacement for rain forest. We already ARE doing it JPM but the loons need their green tax, until the next scam comes along.

RAC Esq. said...

@ Span ows 13:42
Rightly or wrongly I suspected it was someone attempting to manipulate the topic around, so they could come in with the Brexit/Farrage is racist lies.

RAC Esq. said...

".... lifted to prominence by the *emotional reaction* of ordinary, normal, family people, who just want to get on with their lives"

Yes that's what happens when sheep soak up the bilge pumped out by fake news.

Dave_G_carbon_manufacturer said...


There's a race going on to instigate cAGW counter-measures before nature - and the sun in particular - throws a very large spanner in the works and starts a cooling period that is both far too obvious (and potentially extreme) to ignore or pass off as yet another climate issue.

You can almost feel the palpable angst as the eco-loons muster everyone and anyone gullible enough to join the fray - and their use of children is particularly despicable though fully expected of such social-manipulators - before the shit show of exposure happens and everyone starts to ask "who's going to pay for the LIES we've been told".

Of course, policies such as carbon taxation will, in the realisation that cAGW is utter bollox, be re-directed towards new policies that will be essential (natch) to prevent crop collapse and people dieing from 'extremes of cold' (which happens to be far more prevelant than heat event deaths even now) so the climate taxes we're railing against now will never stop.

And those that promote them will continue to reap their riches.

The con continues.

DAD said...

I hope that she is a good sailor. Having sailed in many sized sailing boats in the Atlantic, I found that it can be somewhat rough, even in summer.

JPM said...

RAC esq. You don't do irony, do you?

Dave G. cm, do you understand the Planck equation for radiation? And the absorption spectrum for carbon dioxide? It's pretty basic physics.

The prima facie case for man's having affected climate is quite convincing.

I'm sceptical about it however, as are all scientists. So they try to disprove it. The trouble is, they can't.

RAC Esq. said...

I don't know to what you refer, however you talk through your arse that often that it's difficult to say, maybe you should start using the /s tag and leave us in no doubt.

Smoking Scot said...

Learning something every day. Yesterday a real fancy name for shit eaters, though the elite in Brussels don't use Zils, mostly big German status vehicles.

Today I have to sodding well look up Glass Reinforced Plastic.

However to get back to the Thrust of your post, perhaps, just maybe one reason for the boat is so they can have a film crew on board. For sure Missy will see dolphins and other endangered marine mammals and regurgitate their list on the endangered species list.

And for sure, they'll route through floating beds of plastic.

It'll be a riveting film when it's edited to exclude her nutty spells.

RAC Esq. said...

"And for sure, they'll route through floating beds of plastic."

You never know there might be a semi submerged shipping container bobbing about amongst that lot, I do hope they take care.

Andrew S. Mooney said...

If the picture of the interior of the Malizia 2 that is in the Times today is correct, little miss lemon is sailing off to America in a yacht that is made of carbon fibre.

Carbon fibre, as in F1 cars and the aircraft she hates so much, is created from poly-acrylonitrile fabric fibres and energy intensive pyrolysis.

These are synthetic fibres derived from crude oil.

The resin that they are set in is probably a polyester resin, which is not exactly environmentally right on either as it is also derived from oil and does not rot, hence GFRP hulls blighting boat yards as the GFRP is not economic to recover and the resin is worthless.

It is illegal to dispose of carbon fibre, in any form, in landfill.

Many people are trying to repurpose such carbon fibre for low grade applications like building materials, but something in me doubts little miss lemon's parents are thinking that far ahead.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant! So glad all those trees are being planted - that of course will solve everything - in about how many years time?????

How can I take seriously the speechyfying of a child, no matter how clever? What experience does she have of life? Is she even let out on her own?

Dave_G_carbon_manufacturer said...


The prima facie case for man's having affected climate is quite convincing.

...and yet it is STILL just a theory - and an unproven one at that. Concensus is not fact.

Come back when you have evidence to make it irrefutable.

Anonymous said...

"So they try to disprove it"


how can you disprove a chimera?


no do go forth and on a very short pier.

JPM said...

Why does it - the evidence for man's affecting the climate - have to be "irrefutable"?

If someone says that you are 100% certain to be killed, if you run blindfolded across the M25, then that is eminently refutable. You are not.

However, only someone like you would be mug enough to be persuaded to do it, apparently. You're a pushover too - look at the things for which you have voted.

The scientific consensus isn't even claiming 100% certainty, they simple calculate varying probabilities, with estimates margins of error, for different severities of impact, on a range of timescales.

Anonymous said...

"The prima facie case for man's having affected climate is quite convincing."

No it isnt. On multiple occasions the IPCC et all, have been caught red handed fiddling the data so it fits with models that dont work anyway.

Then the same dishonest rogues create economic models. So we're into three levels of bullshit now.

And its these economic models that form the basis of batshit policy like Theresa May commitment to net zero UK carbon emissions by 2050.

Yeah Global warbling is bollocks. A scheme for the rich to steal from the poor. Was it ever thus.

Ravenscar. said...

" they simple calculate varying probabilities, with estimates margins of error, for different severities of impact, on a range of timescales."


No matter how psciencey they dress it up - AGW and in statistical analyses and evah so computer modelled, it is all just what ifs and buts, rune reading and tea leaf prognosticating, gypsy rose soothsaying.

Note, and the earth will keep revolving whatever man does or cannot do.

For crying out loud we still cannot calculate the various inputs and outputs of the atmosphere and reckon the solar influence, it's not just about solar irradiation but sunspot activity, geomagnetism and the solar wind. Notwithstanding, dark matter reckoned to be 85% of the Universe and of which we know absolutely FA about.

Whatever, man made input of CO2 is such an infinitessimally unquantifiable effect, in the great scheme of things: it doesn't bloody well count.

Anonymous said...

".... lifted to prominence by the *emotional reaction* of ordinary, normal, family people, who just want to get on with their lives"

All the normal, family people I talk to think she's a sadly-exploited oddball; it is only the media, halfwit politicos and climate hysterics who take notice of her.

JPM said...

I'm sorry, but you are wrong, Ravenscar.

Atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by around forty-five percent since the industrial revolution.

That is hardly "infinitesimal" is it?

Insults are not debate, anon.

Ravenscar. said...

"Atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by around forty-five percent since the industrial revolution."

45% of fuck all is still fuck all.

JPM said...

Plank.

Ravenscar. said...

bwah, bloody bwah, bwah


next you'll be scweaming for your mommy and retreating into a safe space and accusing the world of being howid waycists - just get back to swedeheadland.

Mr Ecks said...


JPM you are--as with your EU crawling crap--a deceitful eco-freak Goddamned liar.

As for the yacht capers--there is a small but not negligible chance the silly cow won't make it across the Atlantic--August being far from the best time for such a trip. And some time facing 60 ft waves and the absolute indifference of nature for human life might give the silly little girl pause for thought.

JPM said...

The safe spacers seem to be certain Leave voters, who are given an attack of the vapours just by hearing someone speak Polish.

They are apparently trying to turn the whole country into one, just for them.

Aren't they?

But Al says that the Polish and the rest absolutely, unequivocally, are guaranteed to be able to stay.

fnord said...

One such figure is TV personality Chris Packham, who has said he will not have children in order to protect the Planet, and would educate women everywhere to embrace his own negative view of having babies as a personal burden as well as a burden on ‘the planet’.""

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Meh, gutless half measures. Now if he should remove himself from the equation THAT would show commitment to the holy cause.

Penitent Samurai have much to teach in these matters.

Span Ows said...

JPM reverting to full-on troll insult-mode when he has no debate...par for the lefty course.

JPM said...

Sorry, it was a typo. Should read "Planck".

Read up on Planck, and on radiation/absorption.

If you can't understand it, then don't comment on what you don't grasp.

Sackerson said...

@JPM: You mean, we must be as thick as two short Planck lengths? I would say that's pretty bright.

Span Ows said...

Planck is very relevant! especially at the end of last year (Constant)

But I was referring to your 15:50 comment.