Remainer minds are remarkably resilient, and none more so than that of Jeremy Warner in the 'graph. The poor chap can simply not conceive that control of our 200 mile EEZ is more important to the nation than bankers' bonuses. Even now it takes more torque than dragging your granny away from Corrie to penetrate that kind of thinking. Again today Warner writes
If it is true that the EU is on the verge of conceding that Britain should have the same control over fishing rights as enjoyed by Norway, it seems reasonable to assume that there will be no concessions on equivalence. An economically hugely important sector is about to be sacrificed to the politics of an insignificant one.Jeremy, sweetie, listen up.
It really is not a matter of the EU 'conceding' anything. From next year under international law the UK becomes an independent coastal state. The EU have absolutely no say in the matter, none at all. They cannot prevent it. It is a matter of immutable fact.
How has the EU managed to convince an otherwise sane and rational man against all the evidence, the law, the actuality, that they still have some sort of say over this happening? Incredible.
Bone-headed ain't in it.
And don't worry about the City. The timezone, the language, the judicial system and courts and above all the critical mass of analogous expertises in a world city of unparalleled attractions will mean dull, provincial little towns with a mime theatre and two massage parlours such as Frankfurt will never come close to being a threat.
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Frankfurt is indeed a dull provincial town however when I was last there (6 years ago) it was at least possible to enjoy a postprandial cigarette in a restaurant, a small pleasure denied to us here. It seems more civilised somehow.
Nice one Raedwald.
Anyone who has been to Frankfurt knows that it will never challenge London.
Tiny, boring, monoglot, provincial, parochial. All true.
The key factor, however, for Frankfurt and for Germany is that they don’t want to.
Yes, getting rid of little rings of yellow stars on car number plates matters more to the fixated European Union hater than saving scores of thousands of lives from covid 19 too.
And they say this as if that were a good and virtuous thing.
Such types they are, clearly.
Ring a ring o' jaundice,
A pocket full of euros
A Macron, a Merkel,
We all fuck up....
Jeremy Warner always writes a particularly boneheaded column. It doesn't help that he looks about 14 years old in his picture.
“How has the EU managed to convince an otherwise sane and rational man against all the evidence, the law, the actuality, that they still have some sort of say over this happening? Incredible.”
Through 40+ years of EU corruption funded by the UK taxpayers.
The Chinese are using the same technique.
I simply cannot understand how Baron Browne (ex CEO of BP), Sir Michael Rake (former BT chairman), Sir Andrew Cahn (former senior civil servant) and others can be allowed to work for Huawei UK, aka the IT technology arm of the Chinese government - a country hostile to our democracy and very existence.
I'm not convinced.
What use is reclaiming our fishing grounds if Boris licences the rights to the EU for £1/year/vessel?
As we know, 'freedom' from the EU is and always has been about money (as well as control) but Boris can claim success for recovering our fishing grounds at the same time as 'giving them away' to satisfy the EU.
There will always be a loser in these negotiations and the losers are US.
Dave_G @ 10:20 :
If our fishing grounds are so economically unimportant why are the EU fighting tooth and nail to keep their unfairly allocated access to them unchanged for ever?
Dave -
We simply don't have the capacity right now. Plus our bosts need a reciprocal deal to fish in EU waters. It will take time - 10+ years - to build a new fleet, train and crew it, build shore infrastructure, freezing and processing plants - so there will be a gradual transition, based on quotas we decide, until we reach the equilibrium we want.
Frankfurt has a great zoo, if you should ever visit.
Fish licenses: Raedwald is right, gives us time to rebuild our fleets and train new fisherpeople.
Thx Sackerson - I'll put it on the list
Colchester Zoo is a good visit, too.
It would strengthen our hand in negotiations (if only about post implementation cooperation matters) if we were enquire about hiring a few fishery protection ships from (say) Norway and Iceland.
And since some EU fishing vessels are likely to try their luck without a licence we should also have a destroyer in the area with explicit rules of engagement. No, I don't suggest sinking the foreign ships, but disrupting their operations and taking details for later prosecutions or diplomatic action.
The EU rots from the head.
But as desperation takes hold, it becomes more illogical, desperate and dangerous, like any trapped animal. Watch out Boris!
There will be a good investment opportunity in the next year in the fishing sector. Not just good for the potential returns but good for the country.
@JB - the fishing grounds are a matter of perceived power - the EU needing to be seen to be 'in control' of negotiations since failure to do so (over a relatively insignificant area of debate) will be seen to be indicative that the EU can't handle even more serious matters in the settlement process.
But Boris similarly can't be seen to hand them over for the very same reason so a compromise would be for Boris to be seen to win yet the EU retaining access via (effectively) zero cost thereby allowing both sides to parrot the 'win'.
Of course the UK hasn't the resources or facilities to make use of the fishing grounds but before 10 years are up I can see the EU stripping them bare as the rules get flouted out of sheer hubris and it's not as if we have (or ever will have) the resources to protect them. So who is going to invest in the gear to fish when the prospect of harvest is not guaranteed?
It's all pretty much the same over the whole negotiating thing. Talk of tariffs etc. The only people to suffer will be the consumer - Governments on both sides of the water will chuckle as they reel in the additional taxes in the full knowledge that the public are ok leaving the EU, and paying tariffs to do so being worth the price.
If we can be conned over the fake plandemic then the con over so-called leaving the EU is child's play to implement. We do, of course, have the vaunted BBC to keep us fully informed.....
Boris is NOT to be trusted UNLESS - as a very simple and demonstrable example - our fishing grounds are PROPERLY recovered and any licences are PROPERLY applied WITH the promise that we will have stocks left to take at the end of it all.
It's not a case of "handing them over". EU boats will be allowed access under our rules and it looks like this will be negotiated annually.
There are practical considerations of course, but the EU has no right of access whatsoever.
"I can see the EU stripping them bare as the rules get flouted..."
So the EU will behave like a rogue state (assuming it is a state) with all that implies for any negotiations/extant treaties it has with anyone?
Actually I can see this, the French peasant does seem to consider rules as being for others. The French state (itself not terribly constrained by EU "law" itself most of the time) will then have to restrain said peasants which should make for some interesting street theatre.
And this will be happening when they will all be fighting like rats in a dustbin over budgets and bailouts.
If we have no stocks after, say, 10 years, who will have taken them?
All that Frankfurt has managed to do since I first knew it (1973) is to wipe out the few interesting old bits where you could get cheap, traditional food and wander around a curious labyrinth of old passageways, and remind yourself that Germany was - at least residually - not just a replica brutalist high-rise pedestrian precinct with Horten on the left and Hertie and Eduscho on the right, but still had a few crooked Caligari corners as well... It took those few remaining assymetrical bits, and turned them into a pristine open-air museum, a sanitised medievalism gone mad - imposing but unreal.
...And Warner should be concerned about his own professional future. After several weary years of persistent remainer-splaining, all trust in the MSM is gone, and now Covid has given Fleet Street journalism its knockout blow.
More bollocks
REMEMBER
It was a Tory guvmint that SOLD OFF our fishing rights inside the EU.
Because there wasn't money in it for those 5 minutes ...
The hypocrisy
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